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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

Very
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Not sure
- 0 (0%)
Not really
- 1 (8.3%)
Not in the slightest
- 1 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43260 on: August 29, 2024, 03:38:41 PM »

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43261 on: August 29, 2024, 04:14:20 PM »

At this point, to support the Trump ticket is to engage in a ritual of self-defilement. 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43262 on: August 29, 2024, 04:25:37 PM »

At this point, to support the Trump ticket is to engage in a ritual of self-defilement. 

It has been more than twenty years since I have seen a republican face and not thought now there is someone who moisturizes with their own feces.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43264 on: August 29, 2024, 06:59:59 PM »

From a nightmare of an election between two unfit octos into what should be a bright victory for a progressive lady in her prime. Waiting with breathless anticipation for tonights interview. Poll numbers so far look very good. Bringing in a vet supporter as VP a big plus for me. Now I want to hear how Kamela has removed herself from the disastrous immigration policies of too old Santa Joe. Not that a convicted felon should ever be a viable option.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43265 on: August 29, 2024, 08:49:32 PM »

Trump is filling out his transition team with someone featured prominently on the terrorist watch list. This is very weird for a political campaign but totally normal for an anti American insurrection.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43266 on: August 30, 2024, 08:12:36 AM »

A bit of a disappointment. Played close to the vest. Little mention of the immigration issue.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43267 on: August 30, 2024, 09:59:35 AM »

Now we understand why Kamala quit the 2020 dem Primary.
Voters did not like her values.
But four years later, and as Vice President,she says those values remain the same.
While 2/3rds of the country say we are  headed in the wrong direction..
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43268 on: August 30, 2024, 10:38:22 AM »

Now we understand why Kamala got quit the 2020 dem Primary.
Voters did not like her values.
But four years later, and as Vice President,she says those values remain the same.
While 2/3rds of the country say we are  headed in the wrong direction..
Oh look! Another Trump talking point regurgitated by Mr. I Am Not Voting for Trump!.

It is a good answer though. In American politics we tend to fethishize consistency over the ability to adapt one's policies when later events show a better, more feasible, more politically viable alternative. Instead of praising hobgoblin raddled minds, we should value politicians who are nimble minded enough to adapt to the circumstances. What should not change, or at least not change often, is the world view that animates those policy positions. If your view on immigration is forever bound to, say, a slogan you came up with while riding an escalator when later eventsshow that idea unworkable  you are probably not suitable to govern.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43269 on: August 30, 2024, 11:23:10 AM »

Oh look! Another Trump talking point regurgitated by Mr. I Am Not Voting for Trump!.


And equally lacking in any supporting survey data, just vague hand waving.  Also, a lame conflating of values and policy positions, the usual sort of cheap rhetorical gimmick.

Thumbs up to the rest of your post, with the verbal judo. 
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« Reply #43270 on: August 30, 2024, 11:47:46 AM »





And equally lacking in any supporting survey data, just vague hand waving.  Also, a lame conflating of values and policy positions, the usual sort of cheap rhetorical gimmick.

Now we understand why Kamala quit the 2020 dem Primary.  ZERO delegates won
Voters did not like her values. Obviously
But four years later, and as Vice President,she says those values remain the same
While 2/3rds of the country say we are  headed in the wrong direction..[
The pesky, consistent poll number marking the Biden/Harris Administration
Supporting facts.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #43271 on: August 30, 2024, 11:59:44 AM »

Santa Joe was the right choice to defeat the Donald, Kamala had a very limited national presence 4 years ago. She was the perfect pick as VP. A generation  removed from the fringe lefties that were in control; Bernie, Warren etc.
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« Reply #43272 on: August 30, 2024, 12:12:59 PM »




And equally lacking in any supporting survey data, just vague hand waving.  Also, a lame conflating of values and policy positions, the usual sort of cheap rhetorical gimmick.

Now we understand why Kamala quit the 2020 dem Primary.  ZERO delegates won
Voters did not like her values. Obviously
What voters?
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« Reply #43273 on: August 30, 2024, 12:48:05 PM »

The thing really helping Harris pull ahead of trump so swiftly and decisively is that voters everywhere love her values.

How many weeks has it been since Red posted about the scoreboard?
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« Reply #43274 on: August 30, 2024, 12:49:22 PM »

Meanwhile Trump's idiotic and unpatriotic.use of Arlington National Cemetery for a political event just.gets uglier and uglier. He throws.Gold Star.families (who support him) under the bus and calls those who tend the hollowed Garden of Stone "bad people".

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-arlington-cemetery-blame-gold-star-families-1235092314/
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