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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: February 13, 2022, 10:41:25 PM

[josh]

Got it right on that call at third base.

Hand never came off.

But not enough to overturn it.

Ok, Homer.

/laughs/

There is a reason you have a folder just because of your anti-Boston posts, Ham.

You are far more anti-Boston than I am pro.

I'm just realistic self-deluded, Homer.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Put him on!

And they should have, but Cash chose not to.

How long do we have to wait to find out how Alex Cora has been cheating at Fenway this season?

November? March? Next summer?

Time will tell.

[Hamilton Samuels]

It's still a bad rule, regardless of how it exists in other sports

Except it doesn't exist in other sports.

Like I said, I gave you an example. You ignore it like you always do.

So predictable.

No. You didn't.

[josh]

Put him on!

And they should have, but Cash chose not to.

How long do we have to wait to find out how Alex Cora has been cheating at Fenway this season?

November? March? Next summer?

Time will tell.

Thank you for proving my point.

You did it far better than I ever could have!

Good night, Piggy.

[bankshot1]

I ain't gonna lie, I did not expect the Sox to win this series, Tampa looked too solid all the way around.

But the Sox are resilient SOBs, who can hit and have an ability to come from behind and Cora managed through a mine field.

Its been house money for awhile, but the stack just got bigger.

GO SOX

[bankshot1]

They're calling for a rewrite!

https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/

Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.

The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.

I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.

And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.

Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.

Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.

And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.

Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.

Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.

However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.

What other sport has that kind of thing in place? 


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NBA and NFL

NBA A defender gets beat so he grabs a guy to prevent an easy basket. Depending on the foul situation its either side out, or making the offensive player shoot two free throws to get what he likely should have gotten without the foul.

NFL-a cornerback holds a guy who's about to streak by him, for a 5 yard penalty and 1st down rather than give up a bigger play, maybe a TD.

EXCEPT those two examples are intentional fouls, Renfroe committed no foul or error, but merely played the game and the umps called the play as per the rule book. The Rays were unlucky.

Last night I was posting elsewhere with Sox, Tampa and Y fans and not surprisingly many of the Rays supporters called for umpire judgement to send the runner home and place Keirmeier at 3rd. Do we really want judgement calls on whether a guy would have scored from first on a "GR double"?

I also heard new rules written on the fly to fit the preffered outcome.

The rule, benefitted the Sox, but in over 60 years of watching baseball, I never saw that play before. Although I understand a very similar play took place a couple of years ago in Tampa.

And they got the same call the Sox got last night.

Which may explain why Cash wasn't so pissed.

He knew the umps made the right call.

The problem with your NBA and NFL examples is that the defense is still punished, anf not rewarded as Boston was last night.

It's a bad rule.

Hammy you're wrong.

the Sox were not rewarded last night, they got exactly what the rule called for.

The Rays got a bad break which happens all the time in sports.

Seeing as that play happens once every 60 years or so, that rule seems reasonably fair to both parties without interjecting a subjective "maybe if" into the umpiring decision making process.

[josh]

How much are the Astros favored over the White Sox?

They are still a bigger favorite to get to the World Series than the Red Sox are, even though they have not won their series!

[josh]

The Brewers are going to have to scramble tomorrow.

The Giants are going to have to scramble tonight.

And the Giants did - scrambled to make great defensive plays, after that 1 home run.

1-0.

Helluva game.

[josh]

Players on both the Rays and Yankees admitted the effect of the crowd on the game. The sentiment from those around the team -- from the Fenway Park security guards to the players to the coaches to the front office executives -- remained the same across the board: The crowds in Boston are at another level this postseason, a near-legendary status.

Joon Lee, ESPN

[bosox26d]

Brandon Crawford the hand of God

[Hamilton Samuels]

I ain't gonna lie, I did not expect the Sox to win this series, Tampa looked too solid all the way around.

But the Sox are resilient SOBs, who can hit and have an ability to come from behind and Cora managed through a mine field.

Its been house money for awhile, but the stack just got bigger.

GO SOX

Yes, Sox resiliency came in the form of TB errors, bad decisions by Cash, and an unprecedented misplay into a GRDB.

Congrats on the "win".

That series should be remembered more for how Tampa Bay gave it away than how the Sox "won".

[Hamilton Samuels]

Players on both the Rays and Yankees admitted the effect of the crowd on the game. The sentiment from those around the team -- from the Fenway Park security guards to the players to the coaches to the front office executives -- remained the same across the board: The crowds in Boston are at another level this postseason, a near-legendary status.

Joon Lee, ESPN

Alcohol.

And they do have a rep for getting on certain players: https://deadspin.com/cc-sabathia-says-every-black-player-expects-racist-taun-1794851777

[Yankguy1]

Hamilton Samuels would like to remind everybody that he HATES the Red Sox and their fans!!  Just in case we aren't paying attention.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Giants defense shining brightly.

Best series so far, and most on the East aren't even seeing it, as MLB has decided there's no need to play baseball under the sun anymore.

Giants could win it in LA, tonight, which would KILL Dodgers fans all over the world, and have Tommy LaSordid spinning in his grave.

Go, G-Men!

[Hamilton Samuels]

Hamilton Samuels would like to remind everybody that he HATES the Red Sox and their fans!!  Just in case we aren't paying attention.

Chirping from your safe spot in the trees, again, baboon?

No, hate. Read the tag line.

Can't help it if the most hypersensitive fans are New Englanders.