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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: February 13, 2022, 10:41:25 PM

[bankshot1]

Congrats to the Braves 


Good luck in the WS

[josh]

Two of you predicted the Braves in 6 games. Who was it?

Who will win? (The AL poll is in the Major League forum)
Dodgers in 7 - 0 (0%)
Dodgers in 6 - 1 (20%)
Dodgers in 5 - 1 (20%)
Dodgers in 4 - 0 (0%)
Braves in 4 - 0 (0%)
Braves in 5 - 1 (20%)
Braves in 6 - 2 (40%)
Braves in 7 - 0 (0%)

[josh]

One of us had the Astros in 6. Who was it?

Who will win the ALCS? (NL will be in the NLCS forum)
Red Sox in 7 - 0 (0%)
Red Sox in 6 - 2 (40%)
Red Sox in 5 - 1 (20%)
Red Sox in 4 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 4 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 5 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 6 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 7 - 0 (0%)

[Hamilton Samuels]

NL West?

You lose.

NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!

Heh

[Hamilton Samuels]

Dave Roberts is now officially Grady Little in LA.

Braves vs. Astros World Series odds
ATL: +130
HOU: -160

WS is Dusty Baker's to lose.

And he certainly knows how to do that.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Orel Hershiser blames Beuhler for the loss:

https://youtu.be/l1weY_oLJbw

[josh]

Orel Hershiser blames Beuhler for the loss:

https://youtu.be/l1weY_oLJbw

Buehler gave up the 3 run blast. He certainly bears some of the responsibility.

OTOH, he was pitching on 3 days rest, so Roberts certainly bears some of the responsibility.

Why was he pitching on 3 days rest? Because Scherzer couldn't pitch due to tired arm.

When did Scherzer declare tired arm? After his relief appearance.

The call to have him do that is still on Roberts, but predicting Scherzer would have such a problem under that circumstance sure seems like a stretch to me.

Nobody knew the Dodgers' bats were going that way/the Braves' arms were going that way.

I generally like Hershiser, but I think trying to point to an individual or even two as "the cause" overlooks the big picture for this series, too.

[josh]

NL West?

You lose.

NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!

Heh

Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.

[Hairy Lime]

One of us had the Astros in 6. Who was it?

Who will win the ALCS? (NL will be in the NLCS forum)
Red Sox in 7 - 0 (0%)
Red Sox in 6 - 2 (40%)
Red Sox in 5 - 1 (20%)
Red Sox in 4 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 4 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 5 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 6 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 7 - 0 (0%)

Moi.

[Hamilton Samuels]

NL West?

You lose.

NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!

Heh

Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.

You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.

All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.

But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity,  and the Braves exemplify that.

The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.

[josh]

NL West?

You lose.

NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!

Heh

Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.

You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.

All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.

But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity,  and the Braves exemplify that.

The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.

I think it's a stupid point.

Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.

The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.

The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.

The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.

Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.

Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.

[bankshot1]

Usually the NL E is one of the stronger divisions in the NL. 

But as Josh noted by W/L stats or by looking at division win or run differentials, this year it was the shallow end of the pool.

The Braves to their credit got hot at the right time and were fortunate to meet the LADs with half their $350MM roster and most of their pitching staff MAI/injured.   

I hope they stay hot and beat the Astros.

[Hamilton Samuels]

NL West?

You lose.

NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!

Heh

Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.

You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.

All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.

But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity,  and the Braves exemplify that.

The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.

I think it's a stupid point.

Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.

The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.

The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.

The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.

Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.

Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.

Nope. The Braves won the NLE because they were resilient, survived losing Acuna, made good trades, played good defense, and because the NLW was overrated, as was the ALE, but that's another story.

If you watched real baseball, you might have a clue.

[Hamilton Samuels]

 

I hope they stay hot and beat the Astros.

So do the other people betting on them.

[Hamilton Samuels]

The BEST!!!

 https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2021-10-23/dodgers-front-office-failed-pitching-experiment-world-series