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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1785 on: April 12, 2023, 11:21:52 AM »

No way is China invading Austrailia or even Taiwan. Without western markets their economy goes down the drain.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1786 on: April 12, 2023, 12:13:03 PM »

No way is China invading Austrailia or even Taiwan. Without western markets their economy goes down the drain.

But if they owned all the western markets they would just live a good life being self-sufficient.
The other day China released a blueprint, complete with a model, for its invasion of Taiwan, should it happen.
Basically, missiles would be launched from multiple places in China, turning  Taiwan into a smouldering wreck.
All shown on my tv news.
The only way China won't invade Australia is if it knows that doing so would result in a massive response by the "all for one and one for all" global Western community/gang.
That gang is not yet secured, solid, tight.
France and Europe seem to be waning in support.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1787 on: April 12, 2023, 12:54:32 PM »

French President Macron visited China recently.

npr dot org
April 11 2023

Macron comments raise questions about Europe's allegiance to the US and Taiwan.

French President Emmanuel Macron drew consternation on both sides of the Atlantic with a recent interview in which he questioned Europe's allegiance to the United States.

Macron spoke to journalists from 'Politico Europe' and the French newspaper 'Les Echos', saying that "the great risk" Europe faces is that it "gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy", especially when it comes to the US's escalating tensions with China over Taiwan.

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1788 on: April 12, 2023, 02:39:28 PM »

Cold war paranoia. No more gulf of tonkin or yellow peril, please.
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« Reply #1789 on: April 12, 2023, 05:19:58 PM »

Cold war paranoia. No more gulf of tonkin or yellow peril, please.

Chinese President Xi said that Taiwan will be returning to the ownership of China, by force if necessary.
Fair warning...the West must be prepared.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not fantasy...it's very real.
Unwise to think that China, with now "the biggest and best military in the world today" according to some, won't invade Taiwan, then Australia etc.
China is bursting at the seams, needs more land...just down the sea road is Australia, land nearly the size of mainland America, and only 26 million population...and basically defenceless.
China would soon turn the Outback into the Inback, pipe water from where it is to where it is not, and build desalination plants everywhere.
Chinese warships are already cruising along Australia's coast...why?


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1790 on: April 12, 2023, 05:53:57 PM »

No way is China invading Austrailia or even Taiwan. Without western markets their economy goes down the drain.

Yep.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1791 on: April 12, 2023, 06:02:56 PM »

You don't have to have a Harvard degree to know what saber-rattling is and the purpose of it.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1792 on: April 21, 2023, 02:02:15 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/04/21/belgorod-russia-bombed-own-city/

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1793 on: April 21, 2023, 06:05:44 PM »

No way is China invading Austrailia or even Taiwan. Without western markets their economy goes down the drain.

On my tv news last night was shown...Chinese troops training for the land invasion of Taiwan.
That's what the news said.

China now reportedly has the biggest and best military in the world...and US generals have warned about China's superiority in tne space race and seeming space weaponry...[maybe a large ray gun as shown in "Under Siege 2"...could be].

Xi is threatening war, and said China will take Taiwan, by force if necessary.
Taiwanese politician said "Australia could be next [after Taiwan]".
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1794 on: April 21, 2023, 07:20:44 PM »

No way is China invading Austrailia or even Taiwan. Without western markets their economy goes down the drain.

On my tv news last night was shown...Chinese troops training for the land invasion of Taiwan.
That's what the news said.

China now reportedly has the biggest and best military in the world...and US generals have warned about China's superiority in tne space race and seeming space weaponry...[maybe a large ray gun as shown in "Under Siege 2"...could be].

Xi is threatening war, and said China will take Taiwan, by force if necessary.
Taiwanese politician said "Australia could be next [after Taiwan]".
Fear is a great motivator and you have once again wet yourself on cue.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1795 on: April 22, 2023, 01:36:39 AM »

http://www.thebulwark.com/putins-reign-of-terror-russia/

Here is the road map Ron DeSantis is trying to follow. Thankfully trump was too dumb and too nakedly grifty to get his hooks in that deep.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1797 on: April 24, 2023, 07:58:50 AM »

ANZAC Day tomorrow, April 25th.
Dawn services nationwide...so many are attending the Sydney service has to be moved from the CBD to the war memorial.
With China threatening war, the People are saying "here we go again", and now realise we are basically defenceless.
They are demanding a bigger and better military. Very hard to acquire with a small economy.
Australia needs nukes to fire at China if it starts an invasion...the weapons of past wars simply won't work this time.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1798 on: April 24, 2023, 05:49:29 PM »

My newspaper today; April 25th

Beijing has accused Australia of making "groundless" claims of China threatening peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific to justify its own military power grab.

China claimed it only pursued a "defensive" national security policy in a scathing response to the federal government's Defence Strategic Review on Monday night, which came after Chinese officials in Canberra received a briefing on the report.

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Why?
Well hey, why not just give anyone and everyone details of your military and defence plans.
Why not just give them specifications of all your weapons, and their locations.
Why wasn't this national security review done behind closed doors...not at freakin press conferences and briefings.

Hiding everything from plain sight would be a much better idea.

"None of your business" should be the answer to anyone asking.

One part of the review...buy more missiles and less vehicles.
Great idea.



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« Reply #1799 on: April 25, 2023, 09:46:19 PM »

Attended the big 'ANZAC Cup' rugby league footy match in Sydney yesterday.
Nice ceremony beforehand, the fallen and wounded remembered respectfully.

The army band played 'Waltzing Matilda'. Fine rendition.

The national anthems of Australia, and New Zealand were sung.

"Australians all let us rejoice
For we are one and free'...                                     

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As i sang it...I wondered for how much longer.

I thought to myself...buy nukes, and write on them..."with love from Matilda"

 

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