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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[bodiddley]

Weird to have Israel mediating the Russian War.  A country with a long history of holding sham negotiations as cover for its military occupation and appropriation of others land.  (if you don't believe me, trust Netanyahu's own words).  Bennett also a big settlement supporter.  And at the same time as Bennett goes to Moscow, Israel shot and killed a few kids in the occupied West Bank and lobbed a couple missiles at Damascus.

[Holly Martins]

It's really small potatoes, but I have observed one aspect of the Russian invasion that has worked to my (and our) benefit.

And that is? 

[LarryBnDC]

NEWS
More Voices Join Congress' Calls for Biden to Give Ukraine Fighter Jets

Yes! Nothing makes a mad dictator think twice than a good bombing run.

Ukraine pilots would need months of training to fly F16s.  Makes more sense for USA to give Poland the F16s, which they want to upgrade to anyway, and then Poland in turn gives their Soviet era MiGs to Ukraine who already is trained on them.

More armed drones and Stingers

[LarryBnDC]

Well, this will strike at Putin's core and show him the folly of his ways!

"The International Judo Federation announces that Mr. Vladimir Putin and Mr. Arkady Rotenberg have been removed from all positions held in the International Judo Federation," reads the latest one-line statement.

His personal pride is taking a big hit from that action. Judo is a big deal for him,  Oreos than bare chested horseback riding and exhibition hockey games.

[LarryBnDC]

Putin is hiding his lover and their kids in Switzerland, one report said at a luxury ski resort.

Kidnap and use as bargaining chips?

Yeah, sure.

[josh]

It's really small potatoes, but I have observed one aspect of the Russian invasion that has worked to my (and our) benefit.

And that is?

At the risk of gowdying myself, it's been days since our last spate of spamming!

Putin's gov't did its best to shut down Russian access to the intertubes and it seems for at least some measures to have worked.

[facilitatorn]

Some folks in a lorry yanked the gates off the Russian embassy in Dublin.

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084488/-Ukraine-update-Russia-accused-of-widespread-war-crimes-as-it-blocks-civilian-evacuations

[facilitatorn]

http://www.rawstory.com/putin-invasion-2656860958/[email protected]&utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=9969

[bambu.]

Putin is hiding his lover and their kids in Switzerland, one report said at a luxury ski resort.

Kidnap and use as bargaining chips?

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

[josh]

http://www.rawstory.com/putin-invasion-2656860958/[email protected]&utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=9969

I would recommend not drinking what that man is drinking.

I don't believe Russia can occupy Ukraine.

But I also think there is a world of difference between Putin's "falling" (i.e. being pusched) and Moscow's falling.

[josh]

Putin is hiding his lover and their kids in Switzerland, one report said at a luxury ski resort.

Kidnap and use as bargaining chips?

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

Because that is the path of reduced humanity and escalation of hostage taking.

Your inhumanity is noted. Stick to dogs.

[josh]

Price gouging is illegal. I hope that gets acted on.

[bambu.]

Putin is hiding his lover and their kids in Switzerland, one report said at a luxury ski resort.

Kidnap and use as bargaining chips?

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

Because that is the path of reduced humanity and escalation of hostage taking.

Your inhumanity is noted. Stick to dogs.

Reduced humanity?
Nah, just something to trade.

Movie "Bridge of Spies"

James B Donovan defends an alleged KGB spy, Rudolf Abel, in the US courts. He is eventually called upon to negotiate an exchange of Rudolf with a US pilot, Francis Powers, who was caught in the USSR.

Americans wanted Abel executed...James B Donovan convinced the judge that it would be better to keep Abel alive and use him as a bargaining chip, in case at some future time USSR captured as US spy...
...convince USSR that Abel might like Western luxuries in return for USSR secrets.
Abel was not executed and James B Donovan was vindicated.

Best idea is the grab the lover and kids and use them as chips in the poker game.

[bambu.]

Some folks in a lorry yanked the gates off the Russian embassy in Dublin.

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084488/-Ukraine-update-Russia-accused-of-widespread-war-crimes-as-it-blocks-civilian-evacuations

Some people obviously think that's a good idea.
Likely there are many people who could think there should be more of it.
They might also think that it's time all Russian embassies in the West were bulldozed, all the diplomats booted out...permanently.
They might also think that Russia has finally done it this time, that there's no turning back.

The Republic of Ireland is not a NATO country...and as such people in Ireland might be frightened, thinking they could be Russia's next victim.
Watching the slaughter of people in Ukraine, that would be a totally rational fear.
If you're not a NATO country you're a sitting duck...and obviously expendable in the big bad world of international politics, same as Ukraine.

Russian Navy could bomb Ireland from the sea, west and south west, land tanks etc and take Ireland quickly.
NATO/West wouldn't do anything, scared to attack Russia, scared of starting a war.
Plenty of sea for Russian planes to attack from.
Russia marches on.
Time to arm Ireland with some missiles.

Ireland, brave people...but no nukes, no military much, sitting ducks.
Oh the folly of not getting nukes.

[bambu.]

Some folks in a lorry yanked the gates off the Russian embassy in Dublin.

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084488/-Ukraine-update-Russia-accused-of-widespread-war-crimes-as-it-blocks-civilian-evacuations

The statement from the Russian embassy...LOL

They should read those words of theirs and apply them to Russia's actions in Ukraine..."senseless and barbaric actions".
All they did was pull some gates down...not like they slaughtered innocent civilians or anything.
Not like they blew up the embassy.
Lots of things have been blown up in the vicinity of Ireland in the past.