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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[josh]

Russians have more in Swiss banks than previously thought.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russians-have-up-213-billion-stashed-offshore-swiss-banks-2022-03-17/

Freezing all that, you're talking real money.

Don't freeze it.

Give most of it directly to Ukraine. Save a bit for the fraction of airplane seizure not covered by insurance, perhaps.

[FlyingVProd]

Here is a video that Arnold made for the people of Russia...

https://youtu.be/4e1BndTE6Lg

We need for the good people of Russia to rise up and to take control of Russia and to stop the war and to stop Putin.

Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

[facilitatorn]

[Holly Martins]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-travel-europe-environment-8a16a36b519ae4677a37bba29b9e96f8

The International Energy Agency says the world could quickly reduce global oil demand by 2.7 million barrels a day by cutting down on car and plane travel, helping easing the supply crunch caused by Russia s invasion of Ukraine.

The Paris-based agency said in a report released Friday that (quote )practical actions by governments and citizens(unquote) could significantly reduce oil demand, make fuel cheaper for consumers, shrink Russia s hydrocarbon revenue and boost efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The IEA said its 10-point plan could, if fully implemented in advanced economies, cut oil demand by the same amount as all the cars in China within four months....

[Holly Martins]

Tanks for the picture, Josh.

[FlyingVProd]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-travel-europe-environment-8a16a36b519ae4677a37bba29b9e96f8

The International Energy Agency says the world could quickly reduce global oil demand by 2.7 million barrels a day by cutting down on car and plane travel, helping easing the supply crunch caused by Russia s invasion of Ukraine.

The Paris-based agency said in a report released Friday that (quote )practical actions by governments and citizens(unquote) could significantly reduce oil demand, make fuel cheaper for consumers, shrink Russia s hydrocarbon revenue and boost efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The IEA said its 10-point plan could, if fully implemented in advanced economies, cut oil demand by the same amount as all the cars in China within four months....

Americans need to learn from the people of Rome, they all walk to the market to buy groceries, and they ride bicycles, and they ride mopeds, and if you want to go to Cinecitta then you just hop on the subway. And the people of Rome are fun, in the evening the locals all come out to drink wine with the tourists in the courtyard, etc.

Rome is great, I would like to see Anaheim become more like Rome, and I gave up my car years ago.

It would be good for Americans to drive less, and we can strive to be more like the Italians. Maybe this war will encourage some people to try walking to the market, and walking to the post office, etc, so that they can cut back on buying gas.

Salute,

Tony V.

[FlyingVProd]

Russians have more in Swiss banks than previously thought.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russians-have-up-213-billion-stashed-offshore-swiss-banks-2022-03-17/

Freezing all that, you're talking real money.

Don't freeze it.

Give most of it directly to Ukraine. Save a bit for the fraction of airplane seizure not covered by insurance, perhaps.

Use the money to help the refugees of Ukraine, the poor desperate victims, they need help. Many are out there in the cold with just the clothes they are wearing, and they do not even know where they are going.

People need to organize, people need to have a plan, and people need to take the fight to Putin. Instead of innocent people dying then it should be Putin who is getting killed.

It is good that the President of the Ukraine is visiting hospitals, and begging for help, but at the same time he has to have a government that is getting the people organized, and getting the help available that people need.

You have a plan, and a bus to get on, and a place to go, and help when you get to where you are going.

And all of the refugees need to have the telephone numbers for Kiwanis and other aid groups.

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Kiwanis International

1 hour

Kiwanis is serious about youth protection. That is why we have created a toll-free, confidential helpline that can be used 24 hours a day by Kiwanis family members and the youth we serve. To access the U.S. helpline, call 866-607-SAFE (7233).

Learn more: https://bit.ly/31Y51Rn

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Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

[FlyingVProd]

Governor Andy Beshear

March 9th
 
Here in Kentucky, we are proud to stand united with Ukraine and its people. Last night, I was honored to join a prayer and vigil with the community of Jessamine County. Together, let us lift the Ukrainian people in prayer and honor their bravery, strength and resilience.

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Kentucky is a good safe place for the refugees from the Ukraine to come to here in the USA. I would recommend Kentucky, and Nevada.

Salute,

Tony V.

[Yankguy1]

Rare trip into DC yesterday showed me the Kennedy Center lit up in colors of Ukraine flag.  Beautiful sight.

[bambu.]

Governor Andy Beshear

March 9th
 
Here in Kentucky, we are proud to stand united with Ukraine and its people. Last night, I was honored to join a prayer and vigil with the community of Jessamine County. Together, let us lift the Ukrainian people in prayer and honor their bravery, strength and resilience.

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Kentucky is a good safe place for the refugees from the Ukraine to come to here in the USA. I would recommend Kentucky, and Nevada.

Salute,

Tony V.

People are already *starving* in Kentucky...not enough to eat.
People in The Hamptons have plenty to eat, maybe send the refugees there.

[bambu.]

"Supersize" should be banned and the excess sent to Kentucky to feed the hungry children an adults.

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Syrians are now joining Russian ranks in Ukraine as Putin calls in Assad's debt.

[FlyingVProd]

Governor Andy Beshear

March 9th
 
Here in Kentucky, we are proud to stand united with Ukraine and its people. Last night, I was honored to join a prayer and vigil with the community of Jessamine County. Together, let us lift the Ukrainian people in prayer and honor their bravery, strength and resilience.

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Kentucky is a good safe place for the refugees from the Ukraine to come to here in the USA. I would recommend Kentucky, and Nevada.

Salute,

Tony V.

People are already *starving* in Kentucky...not enough to eat.
People in The Hamptons have plenty to eat, maybe send the refugees there.

We can create jobs in Kentucky, easy, and the refugees can help to build their own housing, same as in Nevada.

Do they sell Sunkist orange juice in Australia? Sunkist is a co-op, and Kentucky can do the same thing with Kentucky bourbon, or whatever they want. They can make and sell Kentucky bourbon to the Australians, and to the Canadians, and to the Mexicans, and to Europe, and to China, etc. People can form co-ops, and they can work together as a team to create jobs in Kentucky, and elsewhere. When the people in Australia buy bourbon from Kentucky then they can help to support the people of Kentucky, the same way that you help to support the people of California when you buy Sunkist orange juice.

Immigrants have a long tradition of forming companies to create jobs for people, and they can form co-ops in Kentucky to create jobs, etc. Many of the refugees are educated and brilliant and they can help to create jobs for the immigrants, it is the American way.

And we have Habitat for Humanity where people can help to build housing, etc.

And the Pope is working on people creating a civilization of democracy and love, and that is what we need.

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Vatican News

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Pope Francis encourages participants at a meeting organized by the Gravissimum Educationis Pontifical Foundation to continue in the path of educating young people for democracy and a civilization of love.

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We need for the refugees, and the immigrants, and the homeless people, to all work togther as a team, and we can help everyone at once. They can live in the same apartment complexes, they can go to the same doctors, and they can shop at the same grocery stores, etc. We need to have a civilization of love and teamwork as we work through this crisis.

And Proctor and Gamble can make soap and toothpaste in Kentucky, etc, people can create jobs in Kentucky the way people always have.

We need to have democracy and a civilization of love and teamwork.

When you see products from Kentucky there in Australia then be sure to buy the products, and thanks if you buy Sunkist orange juice from California.

Salute,

Tony V.

[LarryBnDC]

Rare trip into DC yesterday showed me the Kennedy Center lit up in colors of Ukraine flag.  Beautiful sight.

Good thing you came yesterday.

Truckers tying up traffic burning the most expensive diesel in years...