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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #960 on: April 16, 2022, 11:05:47 AM »

No comparison between whats happening in the Ukraine, and El Savadore.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #961 on: April 16, 2022, 11:13:37 AM »

Asylum is issued by need and not by race. Getting bombed and shot at overwhelms looking for streets of gold.


You need to understand most folks fleeing Central America are not looking for streets of gold, they are looking to live without danger.

Do you know what is going on in East Africa? Ethiopia and Sudan are hell on earth.

Haiti? (Don you know WHY Haiti is so economically downtrodden? Ask France and the USA.)


Do you know what climate change has done to Honduras and how the gender violence has been exacerbated by the pandemic?

No, you do not.

Because you are a racist old fuck who believe white folks deserve our help while dark skinned people deserve whatever rotten fate they face.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #962 on: April 16, 2022, 11:15:11 AM »

Joe has been a big disappointment to me. Holding back on planes and heavy arms from the brave Ukies. Making sociopaths feel freer on big streets and welcoming southern border aliens. Not much better than the delusional Trump would have done. I would like to see a new younger face in 24.

Luee only likes white refugees, not brown ones.

The idea was to open the doors to political refugees. Not for cheap nannies, and drug dealing and sex trafficking sociopaths. Sleepy Joe must have sold his soul to the liberal elite to get nominated.

The Russians have more of your head than they hold ground in Ukraine. You are a mental colostomy bag full of disinformation.

No offense.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #963 on: April 16, 2022, 11:45:35 AM »

No comparison between whats happening in the Ukraine, and El Savadore.

You don't even give enough of a fuck about non-whites to spell their country correctly.
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« Reply #964 on: April 16, 2022, 12:17:58 PM »

The idea was to open the doors to political refugees. Not for cheap nannies, and drug dealing and sex trafficking sociopaths.

As others have pointed out, your biases are so great that you are aggressively ignoring what life is like for the folks making the trip to the Mexican border.

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There are over 217,213 Nannies currently employed in the United States. 87.4% of all Nannies are women, while 9.3% are men. The average age of an employed Nanny is 38 years old. The most common ethnicity of Nannies is White (64.4%), followed by Hispanic or Latino (16.9%) and Black or African American (7.9%)

So, if every Hispanic or Latino nanny were an illegal immigrant who came through in 2021, that would be just over 2% of all undocumented arrivals through the south. Of course, they aren't.

The estimate is that we have 44 million undocumented folks in the US, half of whom are Latino or Hispanic. Assuming all of those came from South and Central America or the Islands, that would be 22,000,000.

The total Latino and Hispanic nanny population falls to 0.17% of the illegal Hispanic and Latino population.

Even if you included all domestic workers, it's maybe 1% of our illegal immigrant population.

There are maybe another 1% who are drug dealers, if you assume every drug dealer is an illegal immigrant from south of the border which is an absurd assumption.

That still leaves 98% of our illegal immigrants to account for, Luee! How are you going to do that?!

Sex traffickers? Luee, if we count all the Western Hemisphere forced laborers (which includes those being trafficked, not those doing the trafficking), that's only another 1.2 million people. News for you: They're not all in North America and they're not all Hispanic or Latino. But even if they were, there are still tens of millions of people to account for.

YOUR NUMBERS ARE STUPID and so are your assumptions about who they are and why they came.
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« Reply #965 on: April 16, 2022, 04:54:21 PM »

Just have Joe rewrite the laws so the US becomes an overpopulated crime ridden 3rd world country. I would rather bring in Kamala, "just stay home". Her folks waited the wait and learned the constitution made her more appreciative of the honor. She is selling out to no one.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #966 on: April 16, 2022, 05:17:43 PM »

Predator and Reaper season is opening in Ukraine. It is too muddy right now for Russia to get its tanks home.
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« Reply #967 on: April 16, 2022, 10:11:24 PM »

Just have Joe rewrite the laws so the US becomes an overpopulated crime ridden 3rd world country. I would rather bring in Kamala, "just stay home". Her folks waited the wait and learned the constitution made her more appreciative of the honor. She is selling out to no one.

You are.
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« Reply #968 on: April 16, 2022, 10:24:27 PM »

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A fun fact to think about as you read about ordinary Russians believing propaganda about Ukrainian Nazis is that in 2003, 69% of Americans believed Saddam Hussein was "personally" involved in 9/11 and 82% believed he had provided assistance to Osama bin Laden. And we didn't need a state-controlled media or suppression of speech to get there -- the free press did that for us.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #969 on: April 17, 2022, 02:48:15 AM »

9-11, Saddam, OBL, the invasion of the Ukraine. WTF are you talking about? The average Russian is as dumb as the average American? The free press is sometimes biased? Not funny at all, very sad!
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« Reply #970 on: April 17, 2022, 09:44:32 AM »

Joe has been a big disappointment to me. Holding back on planes and heavy arms from the brave Ukies. Making sociopaths feel freer on big streets and welcoming southern border aliens. Not much better than the delusional Trump would have done. I would like to see a new younger face in 24.

Luee only likes white refugees, not brown ones.

Somebody fleeing a nation beccause they cannot earn is not a refugee.  Nor is one fleeing to join a gang.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #971 on: April 17, 2022, 10:42:45 AM »

Joe has been a big disappointment to me. Holding back on planes and heavy arms from the brave Ukies. Making sociopaths feel freer on big streets and welcoming southern border aliens. Not much better than the delusional Trump would have done. I would like to see a new younger face in 24.

Luee only likes white refugees, not brown ones.

Somebody fleeing a nation beccause they cannot earn is not a refugee.  Nor is one fleeing to join a gang.

But since the folks fleeing Central America and Haiti are not fleeing because of their earning potential, but for safety, they are refugees, even if neither you or Luee wants to admit it.
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« Reply #972 on: April 17, 2022, 02:49:48 PM »

Joe has been a big disappointment to me. Holding back on planes and heavy arms from the brave Ukies. Making sociopaths feel freer on big streets and welcoming southern border aliens. Not much better than the delusional Trump would have done. I would like to see a new younger face in 24.

Luee only likes white refugees, not brown ones.

Somebody fleeing a nation beccause they cannot earn is not a refugee.  Nor is one fleeing to join a gang.

Amazing how many conservatives claim to be Christian yet have no clue about the word.



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« Reply #973 on: April 17, 2022, 02:56:25 PM »

From World vision:


We use many different terms today for what the Bible calls strangers, foreigners, and sojourners. Here are a few:

Displaced persons: those who have been forced to leave their homes (community) due to violent conflict, war, or a natural disaster. These people temporarily live in another community in their country and usually return home when things improve.

Refugees: people who have been forced to leave their nation due to violent conflict or war. These people want to return to their country once the war or conflict is over. These situations often lead to years of displacement.

Migrants: those who have chosen to leave their home country, mainly to escape poverty. These people are making a permanent move and would not return unless conditions improved significantly.

Immigrants: very similar to migrant. Someone who moves to another country for any number of reasons, including marriage or other family ties, employment/business opportunity, etc. Some distinguish between immigrants with legal papers to enter a country and those without legal permission. This would not have been a consideration in Bible times.

Asylum seekers: individuals who ask to live in another country to escape severe religious or political persecution or another violation of their human rights. These people would not return home unless the reason for their move came to an end.

Stateless persons: those who are not a citizen under the laws of any country. People can become stateless in many ways, such as when a country ceases to exist or when a country adopts discriminatory laws that do not recognize certain ethnic groups within its borders.
Visitors: people coming into a country or community for a defined time. Some come for a vacation or sabbatical. Others come for an education. These individuals return home when that time period is over.

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #974 on: April 17, 2022, 04:24:29 PM »

Joe has been a big disappointment to me. Holding back on planes and heavy arms from the brave Ukies. Making sociopaths feel freer on big streets and welcoming southern border aliens. Not much better than the delusional Trump would have done. I would like to see a new younger face in 24.

Luee only likes white refugees, not brown ones.

Somebody fleeing a nation beccause they cannot earn is not a refugee.  Nor is one fleeing to join a gang.

I am sorry to hear Belarus has rejected your application for asylum.

Have you tried North Korea?
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