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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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luee

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #645 on: March 26, 2022, 12:51:46 PM »


Lindsey Graham's calls to assassinate Putin are dangerous because they could be interpreted as the U.S. advocating for his killing, one expert says.
Biden has labeled Putin as a 'war criminal,' but the White House emphasized that regime change is not US policy.
Putin is different from leaders the US has killed, like Qasem Soleimani and Osama bin Laden, because he's not considered a 'combatant' under US law in ongoing armed conflicts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/03/19/lindsey-graham-comments-dangerous-vladimir-putin-assassination/7065075001/?gnt-cfr=1

Oh no must not say anything nasty about MR. Putin. Just like WWII pandering to a megalomaniac?
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #646 on: March 26, 2022, 03:48:16 PM »

Kiwanis International

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To access the U.S. helpline, call 866-607-SAFE (7233).

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The refugees need to have the telephone number for Kiwanis if they need help.

And the refugees need to work together as a team, like a commune of hippies, and like a tribe of Native American Indians, they need to all help each other. This is an emerency and it is not a time to be selfish. The smart people can teach the community and the smart people can be the leaders, and some people will know how to do business and they will be able to do business and create jobs, and some people will be able to cook, and some people can build housing, etc. They need to work together like a Tribe.

And as they work together as a Tribe they can make sure that the children and women are not abused, etc, and they can make sure that everyone has enough food to eat, etc. They need to help each other, and they need to work together as a team.

Groups such as Kiwanis can help, if people do not know of a way to help then they can join Kiwanis and help.

There is also UNICEF.

Here in the USA we have HUD to help with housing, and the SBA to help people to open businesses. The Federal Government is the largest buyer of goods and services in the world. We also have the Export - Import Bank of the United States to help people to open new businesses doing trade.

I thought about producing a television show about a hippie commune that sells flowers to San Francisco to teach people how to have a commune, we could bring in Cher and Meryl Streep to help. And Cheech and Chong. We need to teach the refugees how to share and how to help each other and how to protect each other.

Salute,

Tony V.


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #647 on: March 26, 2022, 04:07:20 PM »


Lindsey Graham's calls to assassinate Putin are dangerous because they could be interpreted as the U.S. advocating for his killing, one expert says.
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Oh no must not say anything nasty about MR. Putin. Just like WWII pandering to a megalomaniac?

Kill a dictator, empower an evil henchman.

Assassination of Hitler would have given us Himmler.   

At some point, you have to respect the rule of law, and find ways to make a maniac's governance untenable.  Unfortunately it's the only way to stop them.  And as others point out, what happens when we, the USA, say that EJ killings of foreign leaders are okay? 
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #648 on: March 26, 2022, 06:50:51 PM »


Lindsey Graham's calls to assassinate Putin are dangerous because they could be interpreted as the U.S. advocating for his killing, one expert says.
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Oh no must not say anything nasty about MR. Putin. Just like WWII pandering to a megalomaniac?

Kill a dictator, empower an evil henchman.

Assassination of Hitler would have given us Himmler.   

At some point, you have to respect the rule of law, and find ways to make a maniac's governance untenable.  Unfortunately it's the only way to stop them.  And as others point out, what happens when we, the USA, say that EJ killings of foreign leaders are okay?

Hitler had a cult following, 2 years off his power would have saved tens of millions. This is the new reality the truly evil have to be removed. Putin is a throw back. Invading the Ukraine is insane on so many levels. Biden has called him a butcher says he has to be removed. What is the problem? He is going to a-bomb NYC! You are not allowed to assassinate a truly terrible human being and a threat to humanity?
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #649 on: March 26, 2022, 07:24:10 PM »

You're not allowed to hyperventilate and expect replies in a politics forum.  Two years off Hitler's span would have saved tens of millions?  A bizarre speculation and I doubt that very much.  Putin is going to "A-bomb" NYC?  Again, a pretty wild claim.  Do you have intel the rest of us don't? 

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #650 on: March 26, 2022, 07:25:29 PM »

Small-balled Prez, no doubt, Luee

"There are weapons the US could give Ukraine that would allow for them to defend its air space."

Overheard.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #651 on: March 26, 2022, 07:55:43 PM »

Russia will need to replace its war dead, kid. You could flee there.

Or come get your taco and end your days in the sunshine.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #652 on: March 26, 2022, 10:30:44 PM »

The Russian army "struggles" reported could be propaganda, Bo.  I would be careful.

The " do we start a nuclear war" sentiment remains the issue.

32 days into shock and awe...
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #653 on: March 26, 2022, 10:44:47 PM »


World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70

World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70
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« Reply #654 on: March 26, 2022, 10:56:23 PM »

Anyhow check Wiki 75 to 85 million perished in WWII, knocking off 2 years easily would have saved tens of millions. After the fuhrer died the war ended in a hurry. Having some trouble copying and pasting.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #655 on: March 26, 2022, 11:01:24 PM »

Biden is already walking it back. He did not mean to say anything nasty about Mr. Putin. Please don't bomb me.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #656 on: March 27, 2022, 08:44:46 AM »

Biden is already walking it back. He did not mean to say anything nasty about Mr. Putin. Please don't bomb me.

heh

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« Reply #657 on: March 27, 2022, 06:47:46 PM »

Kid and Luee are simple bitches who cannot follow policy.

Good thing the free world can overcome the ignorance of nitwits like you two.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #658 on: March 27, 2022, 07:03:04 PM »

Anyhow check Wiki 75 to 85 million perished in WWII, knocking off 2 years easily would have saved tens of millions. After the fuhrer died the war ended in a hurry. Having some trouble copying and pasting.

the war was almost over before he died - speaking of checking the history.

There is a world of difference between "if Hitler were killed two years earlier than he killed himself" and "If WWII ended two years earlier..." Your assumptions of what would have happened had Hitler been assassinated are asinine.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #659 on: March 28, 2022, 08:49:31 AM »

"There is a world of difference between "if Hitler were killed two years earlier than he killed himself" and "If WWII ended two years earlier..." Your assumptions of what would have happened had Hitler been assassinated are asinine."



As are yours...
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