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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[LarryBnDC]

Putin wants  no part of dropping he next nuclear bomb.

Provide evidence to support that assertion.

You cannot prove me wrong.

  You are making a bold assertion of knowledge that you cannot possibly have.  So the ball's in your court.  Show us from where you were able to observe Putin's thoughts. Or some trustworthy source who has and you find credible.  When you make a statement in a political discussion, simply asking for credulous belief without any facts doesn't fly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp73CJyCp5Q

[kiidcarter8]

I wouldn't say bold.  No.

Heard similar some time back re N Korea.  And of Trump as we

'44 was a one time thing.  Devastation to never be seen again

[josh]

Putin wants  no part of dropping he next nuclear bomb.

Provide evidence to support that assertion.

You cannot prove me wrong.

To quote Ward, "So?"

We could prove you wrong in one of three ways:
1) He orders the use of a nuke (even tactical).
2) He writes that he is leaning toward using one (or more) publicly.
3) One of his subordinate exposes that intention, either preventing it or after the conflict is ended.

You, on the other hand, have absolutely no way to prove you are right and his words thus far don't support your position.

[bambu.]

Obviously the surface to air missiles sent to Ukraine don't work...Russian planes are still bombing.

[LarryBnDC]

You all should buckle up.

The USA is at war with Russia and is kicking ass without the USA firing weapons and this conflict will go on for quite sometime.

Do not forget Putin picked this fight with the intention of wiping away the nation of Ukraine and he believed his own press and has fucked up royally.

Putins intention of projecting power beyond the borders of Russia is a dead issue and he will be lucky if he doesn

[kidcarter8]

Just a nation of white folk, eh, Larry?

No matter.

[facilitatorn]

There are no white folk, kid. Let go of your fairytales. Earth two is a bigger con than your extended vehicle warranty and good military order in the Russian army.

[bambu.]

 When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.
The American people have no appetite for losing more of their precious children in wars in Europe...again...and who can blame them for feeling like that.

[bambu.]

Ukrainian President has requested Aussie 'Bushmaster' armoured vehicles.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-04/australian-armoured-vehicles-bushmasters-ukraine-ar/100965042

[josh]

When Putin is finished with Ukraine...maybe someone can explain to me how the US is beating Putin in Ukraine atm...Poland will be next, you watch...because Putin knows no one will go to full-on war with Russia.

Care to make a wager on that, Bambu?

[kidcarter8]

Bravo, Australia.

[LarryBnDC]

The latest package shows that the assistance for Ukraine is evolving after weeks of fighting, as the United States and its partners learn more about Moscows assault tactics and Kyivs capabilities. The Pentagon said it has committed more than $1.6 billion in security assistance since Russias invasion.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/02/pentagon-300-million-ukraine-aid/

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2022/04/07/the-putin-caucus-in-congress-undermines-biden--while-some-americans-risk-their-lives-in-ukraine/

[Oiled]

https://palace.navalny.com/

(right-click to translate, or use the button at bottom of page, depending on your browser)

Where Putin and all his corrupt networks came from.  Fascinating stuff.  There's a two hour video (gone viral recently) that covers all this, but I like the text version which you can skip around in, if you just have a few minutes) 

[kidcarter8]

The latest package shows that the assistance for Ukraine is evolving after weeks of fighting, as the United States and its partners learn more about Moscows assault tactics and Kyivs capabilities. The Pentagon said it has committed more than $1.6 billion in security assistance since Russias invasion.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/02/pentagon-300-million-ukraine-aid/

Bravo, US as well

But we knew this.  A total no brainer.

What else can be done?