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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #900 on: April 13, 2022, 08:21:55 PM »
Quote from: luee on April 13, 2022, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: LarryBnDC on April 13, 2022, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: bambu. on April 13, 2022, 02:48:19 PM
Putin will not be losing the war in Ukraine.
He'll just keep bombing, shelling Ukraine for years until he wins.

Not the way it works, luee.

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Their was a finite number of Jets offered by Poland through the US in the early stages of the invasion. It would have saved lives and infrastructure. We are now in the world of a repetitive stupid question.

Pol Pot was a genocidal maniac, too...


Putin is not killing Jews inUkraine, he is killing everyone in his path. He is bent on erasing Ukraine but the asshole believes his Press coverage when he is supplying the content.

You are buying his fiction as his mouth writes checks his ass cannot cash.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #901 on: April 13, 2022, 08:55:05 PM »
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #902 on: April 13, 2022, 09:10:50 PM »
Quote from: luee on April 13, 2022, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: LarryBnDC on April 13, 2022, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: bambu. on April 13, 2022, 02:48:19 PM
Putin will not be losing the war in Ukraine.
He'll just keep bombing, shelling Ukraine for years until he wins.

Not the way it works, luee.

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Can't tell one whiteman from the other, Larry?
Their was a finite number of Jets offered by Poland through the US in the early stages of the invasion. It would have saved lives and infrastructure. We are now in the world of a repetitive stupid question.

We're in the world of a repetitious assertion that a specific something should have been done and a refusal to make it clear what that something is.

The Russians have a 15-1 ratio advantage over Ukraine in jets. It would have taken hundreds of jets to even the score. What do you suppose the Russians would do during the period in which Poland was transferring the planes? Ignore it?
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #903 on: April 13, 2022, 11:41:51 PM »
https://taskandpurpose.com/analysis/russian-tanks-ukraine-turrets-blown-off

Why do the Russian tanks keep having their turrets blown off?

It's an old problem, not a new one - and a design flaw in their tanks.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #904 on: April 14, 2022, 03:39:40 AM »
Planes are a safer bet once you have secured half the country to take off and land from, which happened last week. They are also a better risk once you have seriously degraded the anti-air and radar capabilities of the invaders which Ukraine has.

They are getting the migs and also helicopters they want along with long ranged artillery and artillery targeting systems Ukrainians are all ready trained to operate and maintain.

It seems like Ukraine is testing Russian force protection in an expanding strategy including a main supply rail line and the flagship of the Russian Black Sea fleet along with the usual assortment of tanks, armored vehicles, weapon systems, trucks, and soldiers. 
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #905 on: April 14, 2022, 04:45:36 AM »
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #906 on: April 14, 2022, 04:47:27 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/13/politics/us-weapons-ukraine-war/index.html

Why the US is now giving heavier weapons to Ukraine.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #907 on: April 14, 2022, 05:09:20 AM »
Mariupol has fallen. 1000 Ukrainian troops surrendered.
Shelling could be heard in the background, as the elderly lady said "why are they killing us", sitting in the ruins of her home.

Yes, the help from the West is all too late...as the West and European countries were scared of Putin, very scared, didn't want to upset him.
It should've all been in Ukraine ...before...the Russian invasion.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #908 on: April 14, 2022, 10:33:08 AM »
 One thing for sure - diplomacy, led by Biden, has failed - and the war escalates.

You really think Trump and his people wouldnt have got something done by now? 

heh.

2.5 more lonnnnnng years......
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #909 on: April 14, 2022, 10:51:20 AM »
You really think Trump and his people wouldnt have got something done by now?

Heh, indeed.  I truly miss your powerful intellect.
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« Reply #910 on: April 14, 2022, 10:52:50 AM »
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #911 on: April 14, 2022, 11:51:42 AM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on April 14, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
One thing for sure - diplomacy, led by Biden, has failed - and the war escalates.

You really think Trump and his people wouldnt have got something done by now? 

heh.

2.5 more lonnnnnng years......
Trump would have sided with Putin and taken Putin's word for why he invaded and what he intended to accomplish. We would not have supplied any arms to Ukraine unless they aided Ukraine politically. There would be no coordinated NATO response because Trump would not have led one. That is what Trump would have done based on his actual documented actions as President, and his comments after. Thank God we have an internationalist President who respects alliances and can hold NATO together.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #912 on: April 14, 2022, 12:21:24 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on April 14, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
One thing for sure - diplomacy, led by Biden, has failed - and the war escalates.

You really think Putin was ever negotiating in good faith?

It's like taking McConnell's word about things - foolish and self-serving of you.

The war is not escalating, it is redirecting. The same "flat earth" theory of warfare is being practiced, but in a region in which Russia has shorter supply lines and fewer communication problems.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #913 on: April 14, 2022, 12:44:58 PM »
Quote from: bambu. on April 14, 2022, 05:09:20 AM
Mariupol has fallen. 1000 Ukrainian troops surrendered.
Shelling could be heard in the background, as the elderly lady said "why are they killing us", sitting in the ruins of her home.

Yes, the help from the West is all too late...as the West and European countries were scared of Putin, very scared, didn't want to upset him.
It should've all been in Ukraine ...before...the Russian invasion.

Hold your balls and pull the covers over your head.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #914 on: April 14, 2022, 12:46:16 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on April 14, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
One thing for sure - diplomacy, led by Biden, has failed - and the war escalates.

You really think Trump and his people wouldnt have got something done by now? 

heh.

2.5 more lonnnnnng years......

Yeah, he would have sold Ukraine down the river.
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