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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[josh]

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.

Yes, Russian mafia is a good bet.
No ID or background checks needed..."come one, come all, welcome to your new and better life".

You have no clue how the system works or what our policy actually is.

Or care.

But unlike Luee or Ward, sometimes he can admit he made a mistake.

[FlyingVProd]

Bruno Serato

3 hours

ESCAPING THE WAR IN 2022 SOUND UNREAL BUT THIS 2 KIDS FROM UKRAINE DONE THAT.

YES CHEF BRUNO I WAS VERY SCARE HE SAY.

LEFT IN TRAIN AND BUSSES TRAVEL FROM UKRAINE TO SLOVACHIA TO AUSTRIA TO ALBANIA TO TURKEY AND FLEW FROM ISTANBUL TO MEXICO CITY AND TIJUANA AND STAY AT UKRAINE REFUGEE CAMP IN TJ.

ENTER LEGALY TO USA ALSO THANKS TO HIS MOM BEST FRIEND TODAY HAVE ROOF HERE IN O.C.

THEY HAD NOTHING LEFT BUT SOME O.C FRIEND DONATED CLOTHES HE TOLD ME.

I INVITE THEM FOR DINNER AND TREAT THEM LIKE KING SINCE HE GOT TO SPEND HIS 17 YEAR BIRTHDAY IN CAMP.
VERY SMART KIDS THAT SPEAK 4 LANGUAGE AND LOVE SOCCER.

FUNNY SISTER.

GREAT MOM.

ANYONE THAT WANT TO HELP SERGEY AND FAMILY CAN CONTACT CATERINASCLUB OFFICE DIRECTLY

http://WWW.CATERINASCLUB.ORG


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We have refugees from Ukraine arriving in the OC, they are flying from Turkey to Mexico, and then they are coming up to California from Mexico.

Salute,

Tony V.

[FlyingVProd]

It is important for the good people to help the refugees so that they do not fall prey to the bad people.

Aid groups such as Kiwanis International are there to help the refugees, and we have labor unions.

I recommend going somewhere cheap like Battle Mountain, Nevada, or Nome, Alaska, or Carrolton, Kentucky, but many refugees are going to choose the expensive areas and they are coming here to California and to the OC.

The average price of a home here in the OC is over one million dollars, whereas they can buy land in Battle Mountain, Nevada, for one thousand dollars per acre.

If they are going to come to California, then they need to embrace all of the help that is available. We have 60,000 homeless people in Los Angeles alone, so times are already hard for a lot of people. And the refugees can learn from the Mexicans on how to survive in California.

We have great schools in California, and we have a lot of good peaceful people, and we have farms for the people who want to work on farms, we have technology, we have the movie business, we have everything in California. I am sure many refugees will rise to the top here. California is hard, but it can be great if you succeed, you just need to study, and work hard, and you need to network, and you need to accept help wherever help is available. We have a lot of good people here and the refugees need to let the good people help them.

Salute,

Tony V.

[facilitatorn]

Right on, Tony!

[bambu.]

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.

Yes, Russian mafia is a good bet.
No ID or background checks needed..."come one, come all, welcome to your new and better life".

You have no clue how the system works or what our policy actually is.

Or care.

But unlike Luee or Ward, sometimes he can admit he made a mistake.

Oh I care...because what they get away with in America usually ends up on my doorstep being govt policy.
At the very thought of the Left being the new federal govt in bambuworld the people-smuggling boats in Indonesia are reportedly being readied for travel. 
 

[bambu.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders#:~:text=Operation%20Sovereign%20Borders%20(OSB)%20is,of%20asylum%20seekers%20to%20Australia.

[bambu.]

Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB) is a border protection operation led by the Australian Defence Force, aimed at stopping maritime arrivals of asylum seekers to Australia.

[FlyingVProd]

We have our Statue Of Liberty, and in the USA ALL people are created equal with the same rights given by God. People from everywhere fought and died for the USA, for FREEDOM and for good human rights for ALL people.

Sure, an immigrant can rent a home on Craig's List without a background check or ID, but so can a Veteran, and everyone else, all people are equal on Craig's List and there is freedom on Craig's List for all people.

And we have Kiwanis and other aid groups to help our immigrants, we are set up to help immigrants here in the USA and we have a lot of land.

And if the ends justify the means then we can be a land of great peace and prosperity where people can have great lives.

The refugees are welcome here, and so are the Mexicans, and the light of liberty must burn bright in the USA.

Send the people from Indonesia to Minnesota. They can open restaurants.

Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

And if the ends justify the means ...

We had best hope that the folks making decisions don't decide that the ends justify the means.

[bambu.]

There are genuine refugees, in UNHCR camps around the world.
Some of the refugees are living in very bad conditions, sleeping standing up in mud, one report.

Then there are "asylum-seekers" with pockets full of 'gold', who fly etc to Indonesia..where they are quite safe and living well.
Their real destination though being Australia...the land of milk and honey...for a better life...including free welfare cash for life etc, etc, etc.

Former President of Indonesia, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, said "take the honey off the table"!
So the Conservative govt, of which ScoMo is now Prime Minister did, in 2013...and 'Operation Sovereign Borders' was born [again].

[bambu.]

We have our Statue Of Liberty, and in the USA ALL people are created equal with the same rights given by God. People from everywhere fought and died for the USA, for FREEDOM and for good human rights for ALL people.

Sure, an immigrant can rent a home on Craig's List without a background check or ID, but so can a Veteran, and everyone else, all people are equal on Craig's List and there is freedom on Craig's List for all people.

And we have Kiwanis and other aid groups to help our immigrants, we are set up to help immigrants here in the USA and we have a lot of land.

And if the ends justify the means then we can be a land of great peace and prosperity where people can have great lives.

The refugees are welcome here, and so are the Mexicans, and the light of liberty must burn bright in the USA.

Send the people from Indonesia to Minnesota. They can open restaurants.

Salute,

Tony V.

Legal immigrants and legal refugees [approved by US etc govts] are one thing...queue-jumping "asylum-seekers"/"refugees"/"economic immigrants" are quite another.
Can't just have people waltzing into one's country without permission just because they want a better life.
The whole of Africa, Middle East, Europe, South America, Central America etc can't just move into USA etc because life is better there.

Open restaurants in Minnesota?
The ones waiting in Indonesia might've done that given the chance...or might not have too.

Minnesota featured in the movie 'North Country'...equal rights for women in the iron mines and then around the world.
Working in those iron mines was no picnic.
Looked like a cold and bleak state...although might've been better in summer.

[facilitatorn]

At the very thought of the Left being the new federal govt in bambuworld the people-smuggling boats in Indonesia are reportedly being readied for travel.

That is just what I hear the scumbags are telling each other down there. Is it to distract from the terrible governing majority, economy, or the mice?

Could use some new blood down there I hear, with better ideas and some moral fiber for a change.

[josh]

Legal immigrants and legal refugees [approved by US etc govts] are one thing...queue-jumping "asylum-seekers"

Asylum seekers are legally and morally entitled to jump the line and should be.

Your personal biases have no place in this discussion.

[bambu.]

At the very thought of the Left being the new federal govt in bambuworld the people-smuggling boats in Indonesia are reportedly being readied for travel.

That is just what I hear the scumbags are telling each other down there. Is it to distract from the terrible governing majority, economy, or the mice?

Could use some new blood down there I hear, with better ideas and some moral fiber for a change.

The mice have gone, for now.
The economy is good.
The Left have better ideas?  depends where one sits. All the free stuff being offered is fine...but someone is gonna be paying for it one way or another. Won't be team bambu, we won't be around 'forever', but young people will.They'll be the one's paying for all the debt.
Young people will have to deal with a China owned Asia Pacific. They'll be lying in the bed they make for themselves.

The Left downunder doesn't have the mindset for Operation Sovereign Borders...so the people-smuggling trade will certainly commence again, just like it did last time a Leftist govt was elected in 2007.

People can fly in and seek asylum, as they have passports/documentation. Then deported if their case is not acceptable.
But under OSB people arriving by people-smuggling boats will not ever be resettled in Australia. They will be towed back to Indonesia, where they were safe and living well.
They'll be fine if the Left is elected to govt...until the trickle becomes a flood, and the boats are arriving like a taxi service from Indonesia.
Sri Lankan navy stopped the boats leaving its shores.

There are only so many "refugee'" spots available per annum for refugees from UNHCR global camps.
For every person arriving by people-smuggling boat, a person in a UNHCR camp misses out.

[LarryBnDC]

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.

Yes, Russian mafia is a good bet.
No ID or background checks needed..."come one, come all, welcome to your new and better life".

You have no clue how the system works or what our policy actually is.

Or care.

But unlike Luee or Ward, sometimes he can admit he made a mistake.

Oh I care...because what they get away with in America usually ends up on my doorstep being govt policy.
At the very thought of the Left being the new federal govt in bambuworld the people-smuggling boats in Indonesia are reportedly being readied for travel.

Ever think the left might stop the exploitation of Indonesia by oil cartels?

If my house is not fucked up why would I want to leave my house?