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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[kidcarter8]

Are we winning ?  Get those batterries sent over yet, Joe?

[LarryBnDC]

Are we winning ?  Get those batterries sent over yet, Joe?

heh


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-93OFjzQNI

[Holly Martins]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-covid-politics-health-middle-east-58bb99da6bf9fc6af5a5a645022bc4d7

This might also relate (due to potassium and phosphate shortages for fertilizer) to the peecycling article posted yesterday in Science thread. 

Weird that railways in Ukraine use different gauge tracks.  Should have been standardized ages ago. 

Africa and Mideast may have to look into other carbs to substitute, which is a challenge where certain food customs are deeply (didn't see this pun coming) ingrained.  There are many things flour can be made from, if production can be ramped up - cattails, almonds, tapioca (cassava root), sorghum, millet, etc. 

[josh]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-covid-politics-health-middle-east-58bb99da6bf9fc6af5a5a645022bc4d7

This might also relate (due to potassium and phosphate shortages for fertilizer) to the peecycling article posted yesterday in Science thread. 

Weird that railways in Ukraine use different gauge tracks.  Should have been standardized ages ago. 

Replacing the entire railway system would have taken money they didn't have - and they had been doing more trade with Russia, which was not going to make it easier for the West to attack them, so changing gauge rail roads to match the West was just not going to happen.

Being on the border of then-USSR (Ukraine SSR) and then-Czechoslovakia (Czechia) at 2am and getting off your train so the bodies of each car can be craned off one set of wheels and set down on the other was surreal.

[Holly Martins]

Makes sense.  Thanks for the IRL experience of changing gauges in that part of the world.  All the more surreal, if you were a sleeping passenger when they woke you up to do that.

[josh]

Makes sense.  Thanks for the IRL experience of changing gauges in that part of the world.  All the more surreal, if you were a sleeping passenger when they woke you up to do that.

Which I would have been, except the Soviet train folks triple-sold our seats.

At the border, hungry and wanting food, I tried to ask about buying some - but of course, we had been required to get rid of our Soviet money at boarding and unable to purchase Czech money. And the guards insisted they could not speak Russian, only Serbo-Croatian, while we understood every single thing they said and could tell that they understood us, as well.

I don't think I needed it to be more surreal. (And unbeknownst to me, it would reach that higher level of surreal a few days later, on the train from Prague (Praha) to Copenhagen (K

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/06/14/a-russian-journalist-asked-his-former-classmates-about-the-ukraine-war-the-answers-were-disturbing/

[josh]

https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/06/14/a-russian-journalist-asked-his-former-classmates-about-the-ukraine-war-the-answers-were-disturbing/

I only find the answers disturbing to the degree that it feels the same to me as asking questions of much of the GOP does.

There is an absolutism to go along with the attacks on any sources of information that disagree with theirs and the attacks on "gay parades" as justification for their actions.

There are no surprises in what they say - the first respondent's position is clear before he gets past referring to Ukrainians by a slur. The "must support my country, even if it is wrong" position is familiar, too.

Mind you, that last position only holds so long as they are afraid of losing their positions of privilege that are tied to this government and economy.

Oh, well.

Thanks for the link.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/22/2105577/-U-S-intelligence-brief-suggests-Putin-is-waiting-for-another-weak-willed-Republican-to-be-president

[bambu.]

Slowly but surely Ukraine is dying...as Russia takes another city.
Sad really.
Putin must be in fits of laughter knowing that everyone is running scared of him and his nuke threats.
Yes, he's just bombing Ukraine into submission and retreat...the West has been shown to have been neutralised by Putin.
Now China knows all it has to do is threaten to use nukes and it 'll be able to invade Taiwan, Australia etc, without censure.

[kiidcarter8]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/22/2105577/-U-S-intelligence-brief-suggests-Putin-is-waiting-for-another-weak-willed-Republican-to-be-president

Yeah

Seem like Russia is "just waiting around"

Heh

[Holly Martins]

Thanks again, Kid!

[LarryBnDC]

Turkey lifts veto on Sweden and Finland joining NATO.

Putin wanted to weaken NATO...

How do you day I FUCKED UP in Russian?

[Hamilton Samuels]

Turkey lifts veto on Sweden and Finland joining NATO.

Putin wanted to weaken NATO...

How do you day I FUCKED UP in Russian?

The details: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-biden-turkey-madrid-0441ed4a13ea31aad5df316572f082bf

[Holly Martins]

Thanks.  I wondered if the Russian shopping mall attack gave the Turks a little nudge to the signing table, but looks like they were already there with getting their other requests.