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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[bambu.]

Apparently Turkey was in danger of being banished from NATO itself, after altercations with more than one NATO country.

[Holly Martins]

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/07/1110219180/record-number-of-people-worldwide-are-moving-toward-starvation-u-n-warns

This is on you, Vlad you evil sack of shit.

[FlyingVProd]

Vatican News

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Archbishop Paul Richard Gallagher says Pope Francis desires to go to Kyiv, Ukraine, but when and how this could happen remain unknown, and reflects on the diplomatic failure that did not prevent the war when there were warning signs of violence and aggression.

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The reason why we started the CIA and the United Nations after World War II was to prevent wars from happening and to save lives. The plan was to be able to deal with problems early to prevent the little things from growing into big things, and to stop wars before they happen.

We should have acted before Putin invaded Ukraine, and we should have dealt with it earlier, that is what the CIA and United Nations are for.

Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

What should we have done, Tony?

Before the invasion, the GOP was insisting there would be no invasion!

[kidcarter8]

And the Dems knew there would be.  See how  prepared they were?

[josh]

And the Dems knew there would be.  See how  prepared they were?

Pretending that the GOP did nothing to prevent preparation.

Tool.

[LarryBnDC]

And the Dems knew there would be.  See how  prepared they were?

You think the last guy would have done a better job in Ukraine? The country he shook down for dirt on Joe Biden?

Could #45 have rallied the EU nations and NATO to assist Ukraine? After bad mouthing them for four years?

Remember everyone said they would whup ass and take Kyiv in a week, tops. Those projections were based on assessments made under Trump.

Old Sleepy Joe surprised the shit out of bare chested bear wrestling Putin.

If Republicans were not so busy obstructing progress in tackling solvable problems with faux religious zealotry the nation and the world would be better off.

Joe Manchin will go down in history as a dick.

[kiidcarter8]

"Could 45 have.... "?


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-trump-idUSKCN1RE23P

[Holly Martins]

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/factchecking-trumps-nato-remarks/

Scroll down to False NATO Repeats.

Also, from the article you yourself posted, this rather amusing prediction from TFG:

Trump said a stronger NATO provides a bulwark against Russia, but that he believed relations with Moscow will be fine.

As Ward would say, LOL!!

[Holly Martins]

And the Dems knew there would be.  See how  prepared they were?

You think the last guy would have done a better job in Ukraine? The country he shook down for dirt on Joe Biden?

Could #45 have rallied the EU nations and NATO to assist Ukraine? After bad mouthing them for four years?

Remember everyone said they would whup ass and take Kyiv in a week, tops. Those projections were based on assessments made under Trump.

Old Sleepy Joe surprised the shit out of bare chested bear wrestling Putin.

If Republicans were not so busy obstructing progress in tackling solvable problems with faux religious zealotry the nation and the world would be better off.

Joe Manchin will go down in history as a dick.

[kiidcarter8]

"Could 45 have.... "?


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-trump-idUSKCN1RE23P

[Holly Martins]

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/factchecking-trumps-nato-remarks/

Scroll down to False NATO Repeats.

Also, from the article you yourself posted, this rather amusing prediction from TFG:

Trump said a stronger NATO provides a bulwark against Russia, but that he believed relations with Moscow will be fine.

As Ward would say, LOL!!

[Holly Martins]

Olena Zelenska.  Beautiful inside and out.  Yes I have a small crush.  It does not help that she is apparently both a humanitarian and a talented comedy scriptwriter.  And an architect.  Good lord. I'm turning into Tony here.

[FlyingVProd]

What should we have done, Tony?

Before the invasion, the GOP was insisting there would be no invasion!

The CIA should have known what was going on, and we should have acted accordingly to the circumstances, while utilizing the United Nations, etc. It should never have reached a point where troops were amassed at the border, much less an invasion and mass murder of innocent people.

So here we are now, and I am so sad by what has happened to the inncoent people of Ukriane.

With that said, we need to go to the way of peace, which is to say that you cannot drive out darkness with more darkness, only light can do that. And it is the same with hate, you cannot drive out hate with more hate, only love can do that. We need to go the way of love.

We need to love the good people in Russia, and appeal to the best of their humanity, and get the good people in Russia to remove the bad people. We can use wisdom and truth and love to win over the people of Russia to rise up and fight against the bad people. Right makes might. And love is where the power is. Just like a Frank Capra movie. We need to use love to win the peace. We need for the good people in Russia to be loved and supported and guided as they remove the bad people in Russia.

The Pope is ready to go to the Ukraine right now. We need for the power of love to be stronger than hate.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

Saw a scroll thru on my tv last night...Firsty Lady of Ukraine appealing for more weapons.

Europe will seriously regret letting Russia destroy and capture Ukraine.
Putin Russia knows Biden America won't attack Russia if it invades more of Europe after it's finished turning Ukraine into rubble and owning it.
The American People have no stomach for it, and who can blame them.
Western Europe obviously learnt nothing from WW1 and WW2.
Should've armed itself to the max instead of going around signing
nuclear non-proliferation treaties like Australia did.
Now look what's happened...Russia, China and Iran have formed an alliance to rule the world...and are well on the way to doing so.