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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[Espnthree]

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The US Department of Homeland Security reports that the Mexican cartels income from smuggling illegal migrants into America has soared from $500 million in 2018 to $13 billion this year , a increase of 2500 per cent.


Joe yawns and calls for another check to Ukraine.

How about removing the road blocks so folks can get here and be processed without risking life, limb and trafficking?

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?

Trump tried to make reforms, seal the border with a wall, make asylum-seekers apply from another country etc...but the American people prefered soft Joe and co.

Neither a wall or forcing asylum seekers to wait in Mexico would have any appreciable impact on drug smuggling. And those two things are the primary differences between Biden and Trump on border security.

Well, not so fast.
Biden rushed to send money to Arizona to finish the wall to buttress the failing campaign of Mark Kelly.

[Holly Martins]

Putin's faux-outrage over the "terrorism" that hit his beloved bridge to Crimea would be laughable were it not for the tantrum he is throwing over it.

His tantrum I predict will have the same effect on Ukrainian resolve that the V2 had on Britain. 

[kidcarter8]

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?


We want the process to be tough

It should be tough

And the best and brightest (already through college attendance) surely join us.  As do the hard working and law abiding (this is captured through proper vetting)

Hard to argue with common sense.  But you guys do it every day.

[LarryBnDC]

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?


We want the process to be tough

It should be tough

And the best and brightest (already through college attendance) surely join us.  As do the hard working and law abiding (this is captured through proper vetting)

Hard to argue with common sense.  But you guys do it every day.

What is tough is where these folks are running from.

Common sense would reform the system to process refugees and asylum seekers and distribute them across the nation so communities can absorb them.

Common sense can be exercised with compassion and without the demonization.

You guys want everyone to hurt.

[LarryBnDC]

I know this is the wrong forum but to follow up on the last exchange, the Republicans want everyone to hurt.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/562494-marco-rubios-co-sponsoring-legislation-to-roll-back-prescription-drug-price-controls/

[LarryBnDC]

Meanwhile Putins military writing checks with missile strikes the army cannot cash on the ground.

[kidcarter8]

What is tough is where these folks are running from.


Cant disagree

[facilitatorn]

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?


We want the process to be tough

It should be tough

And the best and brightest (already through college attendance) surely join us.  As do the hard working and law abiding (this is captured through proper vetting)

Hard to argue with common sense.  But you guys do it every day.

I will grant you all that as soon as everyone who has ever voted Republican since 1970, and therefore voted for treason, takes the standard citizenship test to remain eligible to vote or if they do not want to test forever forfeit that right.

The quality of the populace is important. We do not want to drown in the soft bigotry of low expectations. 

[Hairy Lime]

News Item



The US Department of Homeland Security reports that the Mexican cartels income from smuggling illegal migrants into America has soared from $500 million in 2018 to $13 billion this year , a increase of 2500 per cent.


Joe yawns and calls for another check to Ukraine.

How about removing the road blocks so folks can get here and be processed without risking life, limb and trafficking?

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?

Trump tried to make reforms, seal the border with a wall, make asylum-seekers apply from another country etc...but the American people prefered soft Joe and co.

Neither a wall or forcing asylum seekers to wait in Mexico would have any appreciable impact on drug smuggling. And those two things are the primary differences between Biden and Trump on border security.

Well, not so fast.
Biden rushed to send money to Arizona to finish the wall to buttress the failing campaign of Mark Kelly.

So, you have nothing to dispute my statement. Good.

[Espnthree]

News Item



The US Department of Homeland Security reports that the Mexican cartels income from smuggling illegal migrants into America has soared from $500 million in 2018 to $13 billion this year , a increase of 2500 per cent.


Joe yawns and calls for another check to Ukraine.

How about removing the road blocks so folks can get here and be processed without risking life, limb and trafficking?

How about the GOP stop using immigration as a scare tactic and help make some viable reforms to the process?

Trump tried to make reforms, seal the border with a wall, make asylum-seekers apply from another country etc...but the American people prefered soft Joe and co.

Neither a wall or forcing asylum seekers to wait in Mexico would have any appreciable impact on drug smuggling. And those two things are the primary differences between Biden and Trump on border security.

Well, not so fast.
Biden rushed to send money to Arizona to finish the wall to buttress the failing campaign of Mark Kelly.

So, you have nothing to dispute my statement. Good.

LOL
Only if you ignore it.

[Holly Martins]

When many topics of illegality come up here, i am reminded of Michael Kinsley's maxim:

The real scandal is often not what's illegal but what IS legal. 

[FlyingVProd]

During the Civil War the immigrants would be made legal citizens, and then they would have to fight for their new country, as was shown in "The Gangs of New York" as the Irish arrived in New York at the time of the Civil War.

So, we need to make the immigrants legal and then put them to work on the main issues of our day. Right now we have homelessness, so we can put the people to work building housing, the new citizens can all join the labor unions, and they can work with Habitat For Humanity, and we can build nice high density apartments like in Santorini, Greece. With swimming pools and tennis courts. And we can get the new citizens to lay cobblestone streets, and they can build fountains, etc, and they can plant trees and they can work in the forests to prevent forest fires, etc. And the new citizens can help to grow food, and they can join the United Farm Workers, etc.

We need to make our immigrants legal like Reagan did so that they can join unions and build housing, and they can help to grow food, and so that they can call the police in the case of an emergency, etc.

And we need new laws to make our neighbors legal easier, we need to have a "Good Neighbor Policy" with Canada and with Mexico, etc. We also need to invest in ports in Mexico, and we can allow the Mexican truckers to bring goods into the USA. We can ship goods from the ports in Mexico to the poor people of Kentucky, etc.

And we can sell wine and orange juice to the Chinese, etc, and to India.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

So, Russia, who runs the UN and just does as it likes in the UN and world today, is allowed to invade Ukraine, and now carpet-missile Ukraine ...wiping it and all its people off the face of the earth...threatening to use nuclear weapons if anyone bombs or missiles Russian soil.
Sits in the UN and basically laughs at the world.

Now, the people of Ukraine are going to all be slaughtered...cities in Ukraine slowly turned into missile craters, all human life extinguished.

The new guy Putin has put in charge to effect this slaughter is ...
Russia appoints notorious war criminal as head  of armed forces in Ukraine
General Sergei Surovikin.

[FlyingVProd]

On the issue of the immigrants in the USA, we need to use them for our benefit, we need to make them legal and then we need to put them to work. I had a maid from El Salvador who worked as a butcher in El Salvador, she knew how to butcher cattle, etc. Our immigrants have a variety of skills, and they can all plant orange trees and they can all pick oranges, and some can help to build housing, etc. And we have great schools, we can educate our immigrants, we have great doctors here from the Philippines, etc. The women from the Ukraine can be nurses here, etc. Our immigrants are part of our strength, and being a sanctuary nation makes us strong.

We need to make our immigrants legal, like Reagan did, and we need to change our laws to make it easier for our neighbors to get legal, and we need to put all of the new citizens to work. We can build high speed trains, we can build housing, we can do amazing landscaping, we can grow food, etc. We can do work to prevent forest fires, etc. We can also expand exports, as we also make sure the poor people of Kentucky have food and supplies on the shelves of their stores, so we can invest in the ports in Mexico and we can do more importing and exporting.

We need to make people legal, and we need to put them to work. And if they are smart enough to become doctors then we need to train them to be doctors.

Salute,

Tony V.

[facilitatorn]

Best post in recent memory.