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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[LarryB!]

Not my favorite Stephen King novel.

No apostrophe for me!

[facilitatorn]

I think it is closer to 25 months than 25 years.

[facilitatorn]

Putin has had more than twenty years to create the archetypical conservative culture.

It does not produce children or professionals or experts or opportunities. It does create paranoia, criminality, and despair.

If brexiteers stick around, England might wind up looking distressingly similar.

[bambu.]

Brexit...when Britain took back control of itself from the rule of Brussels/EU.
No more open borders with anyone and everyone allowed to just waltz in.

[facilitatorn]

Brexit, when Britain lost control of itself and started the greatest smuggling wave in the modern history of that nation.

It will be decades till Britain comes close to recovering from Brexit, but only months till they punish, rout and expel the conservatives who with Russian help lied the country into its current dystopian disrepair.

[LarryB!]

Brexit...when Britain took back control of itself from the rule of Brussels/EU.
No more open borders with anyone and everyone allowed to just waltz in.

One of the biggest self owns by any nation in modern history.

[bambu.]

Brexit...when Britain took back control of itself from the rule of Brussels/EU.
No more open borders with anyone and everyone allowed to just waltz in.

One of the biggest self owns by any nation in modern history.

Britain was basically being governed from afar.
USA being governed from Mexico or Canada?
Don't think so.
There'd be USEXIT.

[LarryB!]

Brexit...when Britain took back control of itself from the rule of Brussels/EU.
No more open borders with anyone and everyone allowed to just waltz in.

One of the biggest self owns by any nation in modern history.

Britain was basically being governed from afar.
USA being governed from Mexico or Canada?
Don't think so.
There'd be USEXIT.

That is not how it works

[bambu.]

Brexit...when Britain took back control of itself from the rule of Brussels/EU.
No more open borders with anyone and everyone allowed to just waltz in.

One of the biggest self owns by any nation in modern history.

Britain was basically being governed from afar.
USA being governed from Mexico or Canada?
Don't think so.
There'd be USEXIT.

That is not how it works

It was as regards free movement of people over EU including Britain borders.

[facilitatorn]

Bambu is behind every policy and political figure supported and directed from the Kremlin. That is why he likes Scummo and his former No 1 radio host.

[Oiled]

Any thoughts on the proposed sending of cluster bombs to Ukraine? 

[LarryB!]

Any thoughts on the proposed sending of cluster bombs to Ukraine?

Yeah.

Ukraine is fighting on its own territory and will be more likely to protect its citizen as opposed to Russian indiscriminate destruction and killing.

If Ukraine is going to advance the offensive they need to use the ammo that increase force projection, cluster weapons.

The folks lamenting the possibility of civilians being injured or maimed by the unexploded bomblets ignore the fact the Ukrainian countryside is already littered with the remains of Russian cluster weapons which means when the hostilities are done Ukraine is going to have to mount a mammoth de-mining program, anyway.

[facilitatorn]

Any thoughts on the proposed sending of cluster bombs to Ukraine?

Yeah.

Ukraine is fighting on its own territory and will be more likely to protect its citizen as opposed to Russian indiscriminate destruction and killing.

If Ukraine is going to advance the offensive they need to use the ammo that increase force projection, cluster weapons.

The folks lamenting the possibility of civilians being injured or maimed by the unexploded bomblets ignore the fact the Ukrainian countryside is already littered with the remains of Russian cluster weapons which means when the hostilities are done Ukraine is going to have to mount a mammoth de-mining program, anyway.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

Give Ukrainians everything they think they can use to destroy enough of the Russian invasion force that the rest goes home immediately. Then give them whatever they think they need to stop the Russians from coming back.

[FlyingVProd]

The European Union was a fantastic idea for many reasons, and England should re-join the European Union.

Bambu was talking about ways to prevent World Wars and the European Union is one way to prevent wars in Europe, and it also makes Europe stronger against outside forces and promotes peace through strength. So, the European Union helps to promote cooperation and peace in  Europe, while at the same time making Europe stronger against outside forces.

There is also the issue of world trade, and Europe needs to work together in order to be able to do trade with big nations like China and the United States and India, etc. Italy is small like California, and Italy needs the help of the French and the Spaniards and the other people in Europe the same way that California needs the help of New York and Ohio and Texas.

England would be wise to re-join the European Union.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

Time to arm Ukraine with cluster bombs so they can use them on Russian troops, all day and all night until they're all dead.

Russia is killing civilians in Ukraine with cluster bombs.
One nice Ukrainian lady was cycling with her husband.
Russian cluster bomb killed her.
Her husband was only left with an empty bicycle to love.
The sooner Russian troops are turned into ash like the lady cyclist was the better.