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Re: News in General
« Reply #6465 on: November 14, 2023, 01:18:03 PM »

I thought that people should have come up with a better slogan for their policy ideas.

It is a slogan that supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources.

Put that on a bumper sticker.

It was co-opted and weaponized to mean whatever White folks said it means.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/
That is my worry with the interpretation of River to the Sea, which is facially anodyne but may have acquired a secondary meaning. On the other hand, it could just be co-opted in order to limit legitimate discussion of Palestinian desires for statehood. I mean, if you look at the standard maps.of two state solutions, you can see why that slogan might have an appe to Palestinians who always seem to have a disconnected country at the mercy of Israel for inter country communications and travel.
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« Reply #6466 on: November 14, 2023, 01:18:38 PM »

I have no interest in making this a racial discussion.   
I thought that people should have come up with a better slogan for their policy ideas.

It is a slogan that supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources.

Put that on a bumper sticker.

It was co-opted and weaponized to mean whatever White folks said it means.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/
I have no interest in making this a racial discussion. 
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« Reply #6467 on: November 14, 2023, 01:29:06 PM »

I thought that people should have come up with a better slogan for their policy ideas.

It is a slogan that supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources.

Put that on a bumper sticker.

It was co-opted and weaponized to mean whatever White folks said it means.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/
That is my worry with the interpretation of River to the Sea, which is facially anodyne but may have acquired a secondary meaning. On the other hand, it could just be co-opted in order to limit legitimate discussion of Palestinian desires for statehood. I mean, if you look at the standard maps.of two state solutions, you can see why that slogan might have an appe to Palestinians who always seem to have a disconnected country at the mercy of Israel for inter country communications and travel.

You raise some very good points. Most slogans are offered with varying connotations depending on the context and world views of their users.
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« Reply #6468 on: November 14, 2023, 01:33:12 PM »

I have no interest in making this a racial discussion.   
I thought that people should have come up with a better slogan for their policy ideas.

It is a slogan that supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources.

Put that on a bumper sticker.

It was co-opted and weaponized to mean whatever White folks said it means.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/
I have no interest in making this a racial discussion.


Whether you like it or not, it is..

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« Reply #6469 on: November 14, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »

Only if more than one person participates.
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« Reply #6470 on: November 14, 2023, 02:36:51 PM »

Only if more than one person participates.

Which is why there may never be a rssolution.

Fingers in ears LALALALA
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« Reply #6471 on: November 14, 2023, 02:38:35 PM »

If you say so. 
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« Reply #6472 on: November 14, 2023, 03:27:07 PM »

The thing the right wing gains from the Tailb censure is that it allows them to construct a false equivalence between her words and actions and the words and actions of MTG and Paul Gosar who probably has a cabinet position in the next republican administration, should something so awful ever be allowed to come to pass.
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« Reply #6474 on: November 14, 2023, 04:59:12 PM »

Biden is doing some good things, the economy is getting better, and President Biden is meeting with President Xi of China in San Francisco. That is wonderful.

China Town in San Francisco is a great area, I hope the President of China will tour China Town with Biden, and I hope they can eat at the restaurants, etc.

It would be nice if they could spend a few days together discussing things.

China wants peace and trade, and they want happy customers, etc.

It is good that Biden and Xi are meeting in San Francisco.

Salute,

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« Reply #6475 on: November 14, 2023, 07:39:28 PM »

If you say so.

Not talking about the subject just makes it go awa, huh?

Sounds about white
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« Reply #6476 on: November 14, 2023, 08:11:57 PM »

The discussion was about Representative Tlaib. If you want to turn it into a monologue about defunding the police, have at it.
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« Reply #6477 on: November 15, 2023, 12:37:56 AM »

The discussion was about Representative Tlaib. If you want to turn it into a monologue about defunding the police, have at it.

The discussion was about Representative Tlaib. If you want to turn it into a monologue about defunding the police, have at it.

It as a dialogue about taking slogans and interpreting them only from one point of view..

Your dismissal of the subject by saying you were not interesting in having a racial discussion and saying it twice illustrated the point.

YOU emphatically defined it as a racial discussion not worthy of visiting, just as people ignore what PALESTINIANS say the slogan, From the River to the Sea, means to THEM.

https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/
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« Reply #6478 on: November 15, 2023, 03:40:18 AM »

A Jennifer Jones movie...in the classroom:

"We will consider the country of Palestine...the original home of the Jews".

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Game, set, and match.
Thank you linesmen, thank you ball boys.


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« Reply #6479 on: November 15, 2023, 07:31:41 AM »

A Jennifer Jones movie...in the classroom:

"We will consider the country of Palestine...the original home of the Jews".

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Well there you go.
Game, set, and match.
Thank you linesmen, thank you ball boys.
You continue to be one of the stupidest humans on the planet.
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