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[facilitatorn]

Quod erat demonstrandum

[bambu.]

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

Don't like my solutions?
What are yours?

[jmmengel]

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

No other Arab Nation would take them unless Hamas is wiped off the earth.

[Hairy Lime]

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

But you think expelling Jews from the same area would be. It may be your understanding of the term is at issue.

Don't like my solutions?
What are yours?

Not simplistic ethnic cleansing that would solve nothing. When China conquers Australia and sends your worthless ass to whatever country will take it, would you consider that solution? Why should ejecting the Palestinians from their homes be acceptable to them?

[bambu.]

I vote everyone here states their solution/s for the Israel, Palestine, Hamas war.

[Hairy Lime]

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

No other Arab Nation would take them unless Hamas is wiped off the earth.

What makes you think the Palestinians would accept the mass deportation from their homeland? They are already pissed about the part they were expelled from in 1948. The only reason to think that deporting Palestinians is a "solution" is if you do not think they matter as human beings at all.

The real reason Arab nations would not accept the arrangement even if Hamas did not exist is the cultural destruction of the Palestinian people is not in their interest, and would be stabbing the Palestinian population in the back.

[bambu.]

Then what, exactly, is your solution?

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

No other Arab Nation would take them unless Hamas is wiped off the earth.

What makes you think the Palestinians would accept the mass deportation from their homeland? They are already pissed about the part they were expelled from in 1948. The only reason to think that deporting Palestinians is a "solution" is if you do not think they matter as human beings at all.

The real reason Arab nations would not accept the arrangement even if Hamas did not exist is the cultural destruction of the Palestinian people is not in their interest, and would be stabbing the Palestinian population in the back.

Then what, exactly, is your solution?
Your solution to the whole thing?

[Hairy Lime]

Going back in time to strangle Gavrillo Princip in his crib. Which is more workable than yours.

[jmmengel]

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

No other Arab Nation would take them unless Hamas is wiped off the earth.

What makes you think the Palestinians would accept the mass deportation from their homeland?

Because they want to live.

They are already pissed about the part they were expelled from in 1948.

the Arab world of 2024 is 75 years removed from the 1948 decisision. Times have changed even if you have not noticed.

 The only reason to think that deporting Palestinians is a "solution" is if you do not think they matter as human beings at all.

They only matter if they reject Hamas.

[bambu.]

Going back in time to strangle Gavrillo Princip in his crib. Which is more workable than yours.

Then let's hear your workable solution.

[jmmengel]

Going back in time to strangle Gavrillo Princip in his crib. Which is more workable than yours.

A laughable redirection of the argument.

[facilitatorn]

Greenland is a nice place to celebrate Passover and Chanukah, kibbutz ready and close to North American and European markets.

[Oilcanard]

Quod erat demonstrandum

[Oilcanard]

Going back in time to strangle Gavrillo Princip in his crib. Which is more workable than yours.

I think we should prevent Beauregard from spoiling that picnic in Virginia.  So many sandwiches wasted! 

[bambu.]

Quod erat demonstrandum

If you're a fan of the Brown Berets and the other Hispanic leaders' diatribes.