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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18645 on: August 17, 2019, 11:32:36 PM »

The  Chairwoman of the Federal Elections Commission has called President Trump on his bullshit about the NH 2016 presidential election: "put your cards on the table or fold."

The President has no cards to show, just hot air.

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« Reply #18646 on: August 17, 2019, 11:48:26 PM »

Last Israeli election, the choice was between Netanyahu and his right-wing and Russian allies v. a party led by a quartet of generals who argued Netanyahu was too soft on the Palestinians.  The concept and reality of Israel has been deeply harmed by the protracted dispute with the Palestinians.


Perhaps not exactly divide and conquer, but Israel has done a masterful job at separating and stratifying the Palestinians into many groups.  You have the Arab-Israelis who are IL citizens (1.8M).  Palestinians living in and around East Jerusalem with certain rights (nearly 0.5M); 2.1M West Bank Palestinians (with significant self-rule within one of the three West Bank security zones); and 1.8M Gazans under heavy restriction which some have taken to calling "an open air prison."







Almost amazing that the Palestinians in and around Israel/Palestine have been divided into 3 almost equal sized groups with different interests, rights, geography.  Then there's another 2M Palestinians in Jordan, with about 400K of those stateless refugees.  And another 500K Palestinian refugees in camps in Lebanon.   Added all up, and it's similar to the 8.7M population of Israel itself, and more than the 6.5M Jewish population there.

Right now, the Gazan and WB Palestinians are at odds.
Gaza under severe lockdown; West Bank Palestinians largely responsible for policing themselves; Arab-Israelis fairly marginalized with little political power; and Palestinians outside Israel/Palestine nearly invisible.
So Israel with little incentive to change much.  And emboldened by the the Trumpeters to inappropriately appropriate more land.

If only the Palestinians didn't keep saying "We will drive Israel into the sea".


---Rep. Tlaib Compares BDS Movement Against Israel To U.S. Boycotting Nazi Germany---

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-tlaib-compares-bds-movement-160800997.html

Seems like dems are being dragged into another lost cause. Antagonizing the unions, blue collar labor and now evangelical Christians and supporters of the one modern democratic state in the area and a close ally since its' inception.

Fucking daft duck
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18647 on: Today at 12:14:51 AM »

Many things would have been different if the US had encouraged businesses to invest in factories and supply chains in India and Pakistan, instead of China. 

And it would have made more sense to encourage outsourcing and production in South America rather than China. 

Unfortunately, the US rarely does economic planning or consider the links between geo-politics and economics.  Buying Saudi oil and continuing to do so has had a fair amount of blowback and negative consequences.

The above is totally nonsensical.

Your keen, insightful, and point-by-point analysis, as ever, really drives a  discussion, Ward.
Then you make sense of the non- sensical.

It make perfect sense to those who arenít suffering from Syphilis.

Since you are suffering from a very late stage of Syphilis, as evidenced by your posts, there is no point in explaining what is clear and straight forward to you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18648 on: Today at 12:57:31 AM »

Many things would have been different if the US had encouraged businesses to invest in factories and supply chains in India and Pakistan, instead of China. 

And it would have made more sense to encourage outsourcing and production in South America rather than China. 

Unfortunately, the US rarely does economic planning or consider the links between geo-politics and economics.  Buying Saudi oil and continuing to do so has had a fair amount of blowback and negative consequences.

The above is totally nonsensical.

Your keen, insightful, and point-by-point analysis, as ever, really drives a  discussion, Ward.
Then you make sense of the non- sensical.

It make perfect sense to those who arenít suffering from Syphilis.

Since you are suffering from a very late stage of Syphilis, as evidenced by your posts, there is no point in explaining what is clear and straight forward to you.

Your keen, insightful, and point-by-point analysis, as ever, really drives a  discussion.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18649 on: Today at 01:03:49 AM »

China has been buying a lot of avocados, especially from the Mexicans.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/10/chinas-middle-class-is-boosting-demand-for-avocados.html

Interestingly, there is a woman in Shanghai who started selling avocados about 20+ years ago.  Previously avocados were very much a specialty food sold at very high prices in foreign-oriented supermarkets.  She became known as The Avocado Lady, and ten years later got a plaque from the Mexican Consulate for her contributions to Mexican trade and culture.  As Westerners started coming to her shop to buy avocados, she smartly branched out into selling other Western food items -- olive oil, jam, tomato sauce, cereal, etc -- and has run a profitable business. 
It used to be every foreigner knew the Avocado Lady and at least occasionally hit up her shop.

But in the past 3 or 4 years, avocados started to be sold everywhere in SH -- most fruit stores, Chinese supermarkets, etc --at reasonable prices.  The best are from Mexico, but they are sourced seasonally from Chile and the Philippines as well (ranked in that order).  So far the local Chinese avocados are not good, with a bland watery taste.  Avocados still aren't cheap, and the expansion in China will be mostly in large cities for the next decade.  Shanghai is pretty well saturated.  Chinese girls believe avocados are good for the skin, nice their oil is found in Loreal and other beauty products.  But without the price dropping further, I think the avocado boom has already probably peaked in Shanghai.  No idea the availability in other cities, but I think Shanghai and the Avocado Lady were pioneers. 


Sidenote: for whatever reason, this year and last year = a golden age of Discounted Import Specialty foods.   Plenty of shops keep springing up all over selling fancy, mostly high-quality Asian junk food for very cheap.
Thai coconut-watermelon juice (Koh brand) is impressive, especially at $1 per liter.  I haven't tried the durian-coconut milk I recently bought (Malaysian).  Banana chips with tamarind jam was an unusual Thai hit -- basically little banana chip sandwiches.  Vietnamese cashews are nice. As well as Planters fancy mixed nuts.   All the cheap juices from Cyprus, Turkey, Spain has been very welcome as juice here tends to be overpriced or crappy.  The fancy chocolate selection on the cheap has been great -- Lindt Intense Strawberry Dark Chocolate and Witor's White Chocolate Cappucino being my faves.  It's also just been nice to get reasonably priced olive oil and jam.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18650 on: Today at 01:07:40 AM »

Yeah, Tony it would be great if China suddenly became like the US.
But that's extremely unlikely.
And there are plenty of other models out there. 
China has been winning with its special brand of authoritarianism.
Kleptocracies such as Putin's Russia and Erdogan's Turkey -- intolerant nationalistic fake-democracies have done pretty well.  There's nationalistic retrenchment in Europe.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18651 on: Today at 01:09:36 AM »

If youíre having a hard time, Ham, having the economies of India and Pakistan (habitually at each othersí throats, now with nukes) more dependent on the US as both a partner and a market would give us a lever we could use at a moment like this to put brakes on aggression. Talk softly and carry a big wallet. At the same time, boosting Chinaís regional rivals such as India dilutes Chinaís leverage over us and the over the global economy. Bo was pointing out a long term missed opportunity wiffed on your many administrations. It would have been a better use of several trillion dollars geopolitically than invading Iraq.

Hammy, you should maybe consider seeing a doctor. You might be getting that Red thing if you are starting to show the symptoms. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18652 on: Today at 01:23:20 AM »

I'm tired of Israel being criticism-proof. 
Everyone who doesn't like Netanyahu's right-wing pro-settler gov't isn't anti-semitic or anti-Israel. 

And the tired line about Israel being the only true democracy in the ME* is countered by Israel being the only country in the ME militarily occupying land captured in war and keeping millions stateless.    And that tension between being a democracy following the rule of law and being a military occupying power enforcing statelessness and violating international law is exactly why Israel is a flashpoint and singled out for criticism.  Like when the US was a champion of freedom and human rights yet enforced harsh segregation.  At some point, something has to give.

* Lebanon is a democracy and used to be very tolerant until the Palestinian issue spilled over into a civil war and Israel invasions.
Turkey has been a genuine democracy, but with increasing autocratic tendencies, much in the Putin model.  Isn't Iraq a democracy now?
Tunisia seems to have genuine elections.   Algeria has tried.
Iran holds elections in which non-gov't candidates frequently win.  Though there is a two-tier political system, with the religious authorities trumping the elected leaders.     

And of course when the Palestinians held free elections, the US and Israel tried hard to nullify the results after Hamas won, leading to the split between Gaza and the West Bank.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18653 on: Today at 01:25:37 AM »

Yeah, Tony it would be great if China suddenly became like the US.
But that's extremely unlikely.
And there are plenty of other models out there. 
China has been winning with its special brand of authoritarianism.
Kleptocracies such as Putin's Russia and Erdogan's Turkey -- intolerant nationalistic fake-democracies have done pretty well.  There's nationalistic retrenchment in Europe.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18654 on: Today at 02:02:06 AM »

A confluence of external factors helped make China an economic power.   Taiwan had industrial expertise and Hong Kong money and finance.
Taiwan needed to move up the consumer chain of products, as it's labor was getting too pricey to continue producing cheap items, while Hong Kong had little choice as it was reuniting with China in 1997.

In the Clinton Era, there was hope that communism was going to fade away for good, and that boosting China's economy would create a middle class who would then demand democracy and a gentle transition would occur, resulting in a peaceful prosperous China being just like us.  Fantasy unfulfilled.  So Clinton granted China MFN and then allowed China to accede to the WTO as a developing nation (allowing it to continue protectionism for a substantial period).

Things could have gone very differently.
The US could have demanded political changes in China before granting preferential access to world markets.  Or the US could have encouraged Taiwan and Japan and Korea -- all close US allies -- to ramp up manufacturing in India/Pakistan (or South America) as globalization and outsourcing kicked in in the 90's.  It was not foreordained that China would become the factory of the world, and if you suggested such in the 80's or circa 1990, people would have chuckled at your outlandishness.

The US (and allies) could have been much more strategic about where to outsource manufacturing.  We did that to some extent with NAFTA and Mexico, which was old partly on the idea of stabilizing Mexican institutions and raising wages there to stem immigration and drug crime.  Not exactly a success, but some strategic intent, and some good has occurred.

During the Cold War, the US was very circumspect about trading with the USSR or its Eastern European satellites.  When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, Carter used his small economic leverage and stopped wheat sales to Russia. 

I agree with Trump -- why does the US want to hand over $300M annually to China just to buy low-cost consumer products that can be produced most anywhere?  Why enrich a country who is a competitor, a threat to the South China Sea, an occupier in Tibet, communist, engaging in a large-scale human rights disaster in its Muslim far west?  China has become prosperous and the US has lost almost all influence over China.
(except the threat of boycotting China products and shifting production elsewhere).

In a way, it's great that China has helped a few hundred million people escape utter poverty.  Quite an accomplishment in 25 years.  But India could have had the same poverty-reduction, is a democracy, is more or less an ally (and would become moreso with increased trade), etc.  While Pakistan likely would not have gone to the brink of becoming a failed state, and might have even not sponsored the Taliban (getting into far-speculation there, but if the military could have been making money as in China, they might not have cared much about meddling as much in Afghanistan.  And Pakistan might have had the resources and institutional ability to control its lawless tribal lands).  A prosperous subcontinent would have made a strategic bulwark against communist China and a recidivist Russia.


As Trump has said, the long-term China strategy has failed (no political liberalization), but big business is amoral as always and is happy with its profits.  And the US Gov't has failed to course-correct.   
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« Reply #18655 on: Today at 02:28:46 AM »

The US too often leaves things to the market and big business to sort out.
Without having a geo-political strategy and using economics as political leverage.

Plenty of non-China countries could have been the main beneficiaries of globalization and outsourcing.

- India & Pakistan could have become the world's factory.  Aligning them closer with the US.  Hopefully reducing religious-nationalism.  Fixing their endemic poverty.  Hopefully getting them to cooperate in business deals and reducing tension and rivalry.  Yes, all in theory.  A prosperous sub-continent would counter China and Russian power. 

- South America.  Why not industrialize there and shore up America's backyard?  SA always seems forgotten about.  Neglected by the US.  But it has natural resources, a large reasonably educated population, access to both oceans, proximity to the US.  Import Taiwan, Korea and Japan technology and expertise.  Could stabilize and prosperize these countries and avoid immigration crises.

- SE ASia --Indonesia, Philippines and later Vietnam could have manufactured the products China has (and significant secondary outsourcing has occurred in those countries).  Also Bangladesh.  Bolstering SE Asian countries near China would have been strategic. 

- Africa.  Nigeria has nearly 200M people.  Ethiopia 100M
Lotta young people needing jobs.  Probably never seriously considered due to infrastructure and racism.

- Russia.  Maybe things would have been very different if the US and allies has retrofitted the creaky Russian industrial infrastructure.  Could have roped Russia into the West and SE Asian alliance quickly.  Could have made orderly privatization a condition of investment.  Educated population, industrial know-how.  One issue would be shipping.  Russia's Far East coast is underpopulated.  Just the Black Sea, Baltic Sea.  Would have had to rely on rail to Europe more.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18656 on: Today at 02:57:29 AM »

Glad you are jumping in to the what the fubar is going on in the world discussion as much as hoops. I learn a lot from what you share and enjoy it.

All I got right now is this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-fading-2020-election-872872/
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« Reply #18657 on: Today at 03:00:02 AM »

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"$40 and a photo ID. That's all you should have in your pockets."
Tonight I planned to be arrested protesting at the Wyatt Detention Facility in Central Falls, RI. I wore comfortable layers. I made sure to not drink too much water. I left my phone and keys with a volunteer in a baggie with my name on it. The only things in my pockets were $40 and a photo ID. Four hours later, I watched the ambulances gather up the seriously injured.

The action was organized by Never Again is Now. We marched from Jenks Park, singing, chanting, praying. We gathered outside of the facility, about 40 of us who had planned to get arrested, and large crowd of other protesters. We delivered a letter with demands, and when, as expected, the demands were not met, we lined up outside the two entrances to the Wyatt, one to block pedestrian access and the other to block vans. However, because they knew we were coming, they had rescheduled all prisoner transfers so there were no vans coming in or out.
So we decided to relocate to the adjacent parking lot, to block guards from leaving when their shift was over. There was a large entrance and a smaller entrance off to the side. At first I was with the big group at the front entrance. Then a car started heading towards the side entrance, so some of us broke off to block that exit. The person in that car was a woman, and she left her engine on the whole time during what followed.

At the main entrance, at about 9:30pm, a guard in a black pickup truck roared down the street, and rammed directly into the line of protestors on that side. Two people were injured. Then, WITHIN SECONDS, a horde of guards came streaming out of the prison and pepper-sprayed the protesters, including the injured. Let me be clear: there is no way that they could have gotten there that fast unless there was some communication ahead of time from the guy in the truck about his plan.
Many people were seriously injured by the amount and manner in which the pepper spray was used. Prison guards absolutely do not have the authority to use their pepper-spray, a weapon that is part of their job, against civilians outside a prison. And none of the protesters was on prison grounds; we were across the street in a parking lot, which was adjacent to a soccer and baseball field. Earlier in the evening, there had been kids playing there.
On our side, we were sitting across the entrance to the parking lot, facing outwards. The woman was still behind us with her lights and engine on. We heard screams but could not see the other group. At that moment, the woman in the car behind us revved her engine several times, to intimidate us into moving. We stood up and faced her. We did not move, and we wanted her to look us in the eye if she was going to run us over. She did not move.

This was a premeditated attack. There were both local and state cops in the area - they were there all night keeping an eye on things, but they would do loops, they were not always right in front. The guard watched and waited for a moment when none of the 3 cars that were patrolling were within line of sight to carry out his attack. But he did coordinate with his fellow guards inside so that they were ready in an instant to pour out of the facility and across the street with their pepper spray.
When the local cops came back, it was pretty clear that they were PISSED at the guards - I do want to say that in fairness. I do not believe that the local cops were part of the conspiracy. Honestly, this is going to bring such a stream of crap to Central Falls in the coming weeks, and this makes their life very difficult. National attention. But at the same time, they did not immediately arrest the driver. All they would say is that there would be an investigation.
When it became clear how seriously injured some folks were, the rest of the protest was cancelled, including our group on the far side of the parking lot. So I came home with the $40 still in my pocket.

I joined this action because I've reached a point where I look at everything I've done so far and there's no risk, no personal cost. If I look at this moment in history, and all I can say is that I posted some stuff and waved some signs, but was unwilling to take any risk or do anything that might cost me, I simply cannot live with that. ICE is perpetrating crimes against humanity. I will not be a person who looked the other way, who hoped it would go away.

For more information on the Wyatt: My understanding is that the Wyatt is a for-profit facility but they have two governing bodies: a board of governors that is made up of Central Falls public officials, and a board of the shareholders. In the spring of this year, the Wyatt entered into a contract with ICE to house about 100 detainees from the southern border. The mayor and city council of Central Falls was very opposed to this, and the board of governors from Central Falls voted to end the contract. But the board of shareholders really, really wanted that sweet ICE money, so they sued the city and the board of governors and the mayor, for the right to ignore the governance and keep the ICE detainees. That lawsuit is ongoing.
Please let the mayor and government of Central Falls that you support them. Additionally, the RI Senate and RI House have the power to enact legislation banning for-profit prisons in the state. Other states have done this. Please, please let your Senator and Rep know that you want this to be a priority for them during the next legislative session that starts in January. Let them know how outraged you are that guards from a for-profit facility would use their prison weapons against non-violent protestors. If they are using that much excessive force on civilians, what are they doing to those who are detained in their facility, do you think? Please donate to AMOR, an immigrant support organization in RI: https://amorri.org/
If you are not in RI, I'm sure you can find the local equivalents. Never Again is Now is a national organization with many local branches.
Please share with everyone you know in RI, especially if the Projo and Channel 10 and stuff start putting out a skewed version. This is what happened. I was there.

EDIT [the next morning when I can speak more clearly]: For clarity, I don't think the Central Falls police were involved in the planning of the attack, but they were very involved in covering it up by not arresting the guard immediately and in the way they responded to witnesses. Earlier in the night, they blatantly lied to us about who the woman was in the car behind us in an effort to get us to leave. All cops are complicit. Also, by now I'm sure everyone reading this has seen the video and the other news coverage and they made it more clear: he was outside the parking lot, ramming inwards. It's not like he was inside and frustrated with us blocking him.

Please, if you talk about this story, make sure to ask the question: if they treated us with this level of violence, a group of civilian protesters with cops not that far away and everyone having a cellphone camera, what do you think they are doing to those detained in the facility who have no way to get the word out about their treatment?

One of the items that Never Again is Now was protesting about this facility was the lack of transparency and proof that detainees rights are being met. After last night, it's not enough for the Wyatt to just cancel the ICE contract. The whole facility needs to be shut down. Tell your RI senators and reps: No for-profit prisons in RI!
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