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Calling somebody deplorable
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Calling somebody human scum
- 3 (75%)
If Clinton said it, that's worse. If Trump said it, he's right.
- 1 (25%)
If Trump said it, that's worse. If Clinton said it, she's right.
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Voting closed: November 03, 2019, 03:12:02 AM


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facilitatorn

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24930 on: Today at 04:28:52 PM »

The bigger goal is to make you think of someone besides trump and his goons when you hear antisemitism. It’s especially important for Jared who’s community wonders aloud how he got so far in bed with the someone so bigoted against Jews (the father not the daughter).
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24931 on: Today at 04:29:51 PM »

Couldn't Trump have issued an EO that said title VI be extended to religion, and cover it that way?

No, because the law is clear what is covered.  Can't just pretend it extends to something not there.  That wouldn't hold water.

So the subterfuge is to reclassify Jewishness as a nationality and then presto anti-semitism is covered.  Still will be legally challenged, I presume.

I think this is all trying to defend Israel from economic harm, and using a smokescreen of concern about anti-semitism to do so. 

Netanyahu's gov't and groups like the Anti-Defamation League have tried for a long time to conflate Israel and Jewishness, asserting that any criticism of Israeli policy is really just anti-semitism. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24932 on: Today at 04:36:43 PM »

I don't think Jared has any problem.  As Trump likes to boast, his administration is the biggest supporter of Israel in US history.  Or at least the biggest supporter of the current IL gov't.  With hardcore pro-settlement folk like David Friedman running US policy in Israel.  Moving the embassy to Jerusalem.  Cutting off Palestinian funding.  Discarding the two-state solution.  Deciding West Bank settlements aren't illegal.  And doing much of this in order to extend Netanyahu's political career.

With all that going on, I don't think many pro-Israeli Americans care much about Trump's crude rhetoric, stereotypes and other faux pas.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24933 on: Today at 05:44:00 PM »

I don't think Jared has any problem.  As Trump likes to boast, his administration is the biggest supporter of Israel in US history.  Or at least the biggest supporter of the current IL gov't.  With hardcore pro-settlement folk like David Friedman running US policy in Israel.  Moving the embassy to Jerusalem.  Cutting off Palestinian funding.  Discarding the two-state solution.  Deciding West Bank settlements aren't illegal.  And doing much of this in order to extend Netanyahu's political career.

With all that going on, I don't think many pro-Israeli Americans care much about Trump's crude rhetoric, stereotypes and other faux pas.

You would be mistaken.

We care a lot.

One of the major pro-Israel organizations responded to his recent speech with a tweet indicating that while they appreciate his support for Israel, could he *please* get rid of the nasty stereotyping?

And while I think the ways in which Trump has undermined most chance of our helping a peace plan to come into being are revolting, I could not see a two state solution as being viably enacted.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24934 on: Today at 05:46:15 PM »


Its Jared and his father-in-law that are performing the conflation he claims to criticize, with the goal of shutting down speech on campuses that is critical of Israel.

And that is not at all admirable.

Beyond "not at all admirable," it is problematic, especially in concert with the promotion of Jews as all about money. It makes us bigger targets than we were already.
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