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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

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What's the best cure for a volatile situation with firearms?

MORE FIREARMS!!!!

Fucking morons.

And FUCK the lives that could be saved.

Bravo to you.

So, if more lives are put at risk than might be saved, how is this a net win, in your oh so humble opinion, Kiiid?

Do the statistics on gun deaths have zero impact on your thinking?!

Your argument in favor of more guns is like the arguments against seat belts. "But look! This person was saved by not having a seat belt!" Or about there no longer being racism because Obama got ahead or our being a meritocracy because Air BNB. "Sure, 98% of all glaciars are in retreat, but these couple aren't, so there is no global warming!"

These are all claims that low incidence events make the overall position stronger than its strong majority of events.

I know you want an argument (dont you always?) but this post is so bad it doesnt deserve a response from anyone, let alone me.

I'll respond.

This is a list of EMS/EMT deaths, going back a while (at least five years from when the incidents are dated in the top line) No idea if it is exhaustive, but certainly useful as the circumstances of each death are linked to:

https://www.ems1.com/LODD-Line-of-duty-deaths/

I went back at least four years, and couldn't find one instance in which arming the EMT would have saved his or her life.  Not one.

Maybe if kiidcarter8 wants to argue that this measure would save lives, he should point to a recent situation where it would have.

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You:  The high probability of an innocent person being killed by an untrained professional carrying a firearm into a high stress situation is bad.

kiidcarter8:  Wimp.

Larry's response was better

Your post was idiotic.  Naturally I wouldn't expect you to approve of a response that pointed that out.

[barton]

What's the best cure for a volatile situation with firearms?

MORE FIREARMS!!!!

Fucking morons.

And FUCK the lives that could be saved.

Bravo to you.

KIDC:  Just want to alert you:  apparently, an imbecile has somehow obtained your password and is posting under your moniker.  You may want to be armed when you find him.

[NeedsAdjustments]

What's the best cure for a volatile situation with firearms?

MORE FIREARMS!!!!

Fucking morons.

And FUCK the lives that could be saved.

Bravo to you.

So, if more lives are put at risk than might be saved, how is this a net win, in your oh so humble opinion, Kiiid?

Do the statistics on gun deaths have zero impact on your thinking?!

Your argument in favor of more guns is like the arguments against seat belts. "But look! This person was saved by not having a seat belt!" Or about there no longer being racism because Obama got ahead or our being a meritocracy because Air BNB. "Sure, 98% of all glaciars are in retreat, but these couple aren't, so there is no global warming!"

These are all claims that low incidence events make the overall position stronger than its strong majority of events.

I know you want an argument (dont you always?) but this post is so bad it doesnt deserve a response from anyone, let alone me.

I'll respond.

This is a list of EMS/EMT deaths, going back a while (at least five years from when the incidents are dated in the top line) No idea if it is exhaustive, but certainly useful as the circumstances of each death are linked to:

https://www.ems1.com/LODD-Line-of-duty-deaths/

I went back at least four years, and couldn't find one instance in which arming the EMT would have saved his or her life.  Not one.

Maybe if kiidcarter8 wants to argue that this measure would save lives, he should point to a recent situation where it would have.

But it does list this:

https://www.ems1.com/LODD-Line-of-duty-deaths/2105931-LODD-EMT-accidentally-shot-by-colleague-during-training/

[kiidcarter8]

Fuck the po-lice!

Fuck the EMTs!

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Fuck the po-lice!

Fuck the EMTs!

I posted a list recognizing the EMS professionals killed in the line of duty.

You want to argue that lives would be saved by arming EMTs.  But can't point to how lives would be saved by arming EMTs. 

Seems to me your argument isn't actually about EMTs at all.

[kiidcarter8]

You:  The high probability of an innocent person being killed by an untrained professional carrying a firearm into a high stress situation is bad.

kiidcarter8:  Wimp.

Larry's response was better

Your post was idiotic.  Naturally I wouldn't expect you to approve of a response that pointed that out.

Your responses need checking for accuracy.  Which is why the "bug fucker" was better, sadly.

[kiidcarter8]

Fuck the po-lice!

Fuck the EMTs!

I posted a list recognizing the EMS professionals killed in the line of duty.

You want to argue that lives would be saved by arming EMTs. 

COULD

C'mon, man - keep up with changing times.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Fuck the po-lice!

Fuck the EMTs!

I posted a list recognizing the EMS professionals killed in the line of duty.

You want to argue that lives would be saved by arming EMTs. 

COULD

C'mon, man - keep up with changing times.

What changing times?  Do the police no longer respond to situations where there is an armed and dangerous person threatening people's lives?

Because if they do, I prefer they continue to be the line of defense rather than medical professionals.  Otherwise, I think common sense would tell you that list of EMTs lost in the line of duty gets longer, not shorter.

[kiidcarter8]

Do the police no longer respond to situations where there is an armed and dangerous person threatening people's lives?

Sure.

[josh]

I know you want an argument (dont you always?) but this post is so bad it doesnt deserve a response from anyone, let alone me.

I know you want to avoid fact-based conversations at all costs.

[josh]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/06/twice-many-plants-have-gone-extinct-birds-mammals-and-amphibians-combined?fbclid=IwAR0TQ9R1KoPhpNhgjavVEqYqtkhoivBSkzdmf7iLLWcKlGyPZl5fhWKKgmM

[josh]

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/06/11/hawaii-has-broken-or-tied-dozens-heat-records-since-mid-may/

[josh]

Or perhaps you want the oh just slightly unusual hail storms in Germany:4

https://www.thelocal.de/20190611/giant-hailstones-hit-munich-as-storms-continue-across-germany

[facilitatorn]

What's the best cure for a volatile situation with firearms?

MORE FIREARMS!!!!

Fucking morons.

And FUCK the lives that could be saved.

Bravo to you.

KIDC:  Just want to alert you:  apparently, an imbecile has somehow obtained your password and is posting under your moniker.  You may want to be armed when you find him.

That explains sooooo much.

Showdown at the moron corral.