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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[barton]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/abortion-supporters-have-made-trumps-reelection-more-likely/2019/06/10/1dd4b9c4-8bb9-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html

Interesting take on Biden vacillation from Michael Gerson....

  .....This has left nearly monolithic parties to appeal to a more ethically complex country. A 2018 Gallup poll found 29 percent who believe abortion should be legal in all circumstances, 14 percent in most circumstances, 35 percent in few circumstances and 18 percent in no circumstances. So nearly 8 in 10 Americans believe that abortion should be available in all or some circumstances. And nearly 7 in 10 believe that abortion should be restricted in all or some circumstances.

Biden’s traditional position on this issue — that there should be a difference in government’s role in “the first day and the ninth month” — could effectively appeal to a country with these views. And his opposition to federal funding of abortion was one of the last remaining ways for a Democratic politician to tell Catholics (and others) that their ethical concerns have some degree of merit. Now, a Democratic presidential nominee is not allowed even a hint of reticence. Abortion must be supported and funded as a positive good.

The moral question is obvious: How does this allow Biden to live with his Catholic conscience? But the political implications are also relevant. Biden has made it harder — significantly harder — for cultural conservatives who are disturbed by Trump’s cruelty and prejudice to vote for Biden, should he be his party’s nominee.     

Well, the radical shift to the right on state laws restricting abortion is going to cause people who support it to rethink the way they view abortion. Advocating for greater protection as a response strikes me as natural.

Yeah, as in other issues, the tendency these days is for everyone to be more polarized.  As with guns, a centrist position will be harder to find, because it takes, like, nuance and real dialog between factions and all that tricky bipartisan stuff that used to be called "politics."   

So we have states banning abortion where a "heartbeat" is an electrical flicker in a ball of cells one millimeter in diameter, or some group making a legal argument that the 2nd Amendment defends silencers.   

[barton]

Ya don’t say?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

Racism is over, dude!   It's just a "cultural" thing.   The refusal to change tail light bulbs among African-Americans is deeply ingrained in their traditions. 

[NeedsAdjustments]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/03/29/report-the-department-of-education-has-spent-1-billion-on-charter-school-waste-and-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR2AS2B83GzB2oHjhIBgAvVatYeWZb5iWZ-giuCps7LXFWgh1iz_B42AT_I#de130e727b64

Here's another of those "liberal elite" things - we hate waste and fraud, even in ideas we otherwise like.

I have no specific beef with the reports conclusions, I’m simply not in a position or have the knowledge to refute them. But I would apply the same skepticism to a report put out by an organization whose stated goal is to limit charter schools telling me a full quarter of the public money spent on them is a waste and a fraud as I would to a report on climate change put out by Exxon-Mobil. 

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/03/29/report-the-department-of-education-has-spent-1-billion-on-charter-school-waste-and-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR2AS2B83GzB2oHjhIBgAvVatYeWZb5iWZ-giuCps7LXFWgh1iz_B42AT_I#de130e727b64

Here's another of those "liberal elite" things - we hate waste and fraud, even in ideas we otherwise like.

I have no specific beef with the reports conclusions, I’m simply not in a position or have the knowledge to refute them. But I would apply the same skepticism to a report put out by an organization whose stated goal is to limit charter schools telling me a full quarter of the public money spent on them is a waste and a fraud as I would to a report on climate change put out by Exxon-Mobil.

It’s all bullshit, anyway..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/11/is-it-better-be-born-smart-or-rich-you-probably-wont-like-answer/

[kiidcarter8]

After months of citing Gallup and its 35-37 per cent Trump ratings, Morning Joe today begins using, "Trump - the 40 per cent president".  Then goes on to say, ".....41, 42 per cent" as if that were a major fault.

What happened to 37, Joe?

Of course the real poll now sits at 51% favorable, 47% unfavorable for President Trump

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

High this year - 53
Low this year - 43

Strong approve sits at 37

Strong disapprove at 40

[NeedsAdjustments]

After months of citing Gallup and its 35-37 per cent Trump ratings, Morning Joe today begins using, "Trump - the 40 per cent president".  Then goes on to say, ".....41, 42 per cent" as if that were a major fault.

What happened to 37, Joe?

Of course the real poll now sits at 51% favorable, 47% unfavorable for President Trump

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

High this year - 53
Low this year - 43

Strong approve sits at 37

Strong disapprove at 40

Thank you for the careful parsing of obviously biased polling.  If Trump was really polling at 51 percent nationally, he wouldn't be looking at internal polls that have losing key states he won in 2016, and he wouldn't have to instruct his aides to lie about it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/10/us/politics/trump-biden-iowa.html

I have no idea what polling "Morning Joe" usually cites, but Trump has more or less consistently been between 40-42 percent in reputable polling averages for his whole presidency (except for when he tried to take people's health insurance away, and he dropped down to 36-38 percent) so I'd say that quote is accurate.

And yes, polling at 41, 42 percent is a major fault, as it would make Trump the least popular President since WWII.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Quinnipiac University has for the first time conducted national head-to-head polls matching up Trump and some of the leading Democratic presidential hopefuls. None of the matchups is good for Trump.

Trump trails all six by between five and 13 points, with Joe Biden holding the biggest advantage and lesser-known candidates - Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg - holding the smallest leads.

The findings, importantly, mirror the limited head-to-head polling we've seen in some key early states, with Trump trailing by as much as double digits in crucial Michigan and Pennsylvania, and even trailing Biden in Texas(!) in another Quinnipiac poll. Trump also trails in most national head-to-heads, although often not by as much as Quinnipiac indicates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/11/more-brutal-poll-numbers-trump/?utm_term=.6c7935d514e3

Its early, head-to-heads are less reliable at this point than overall favorables, and I wouldn't put money on Trump losing Texas.

But if Trump was really more popular in this country than not, we wouldn't be seeing polling like this.  Simply would not be seeing it.

[kiidcarter8]

5 and 13 points?  17 months to go?

Trump in perfect position

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[NeedsAdjustments]

5 and 13 points?  17 months to go?

Trump in perfect position

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

From your mouth to Trump's ears.  I sincerely hope that Trump thinks as you do, that he can again lose the popular vote by over 2% and still win the election.

[kiidcarter8]

The 53-34 per cent lead quickly dissipated for Clinton when she and Trump started making speeches.

Same happening with Biden and his lead in Dem primary

You guys had better find somebody.  78?  And to be 86 end of second term?  Come on.

Drama.

[kiidcarter8]

They had also better hope RON SILVER is available to manage the winning candidate's campaign.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d00752fe4b075510399a591

Shep Smith, choosing nation over paycheck, urges his viewers to read the Mueller Report because it’s brimming with criminal activity by the maniac usurper and his committee to defraud America.

It should help donnie diapers leak some more support.

Amash is getting ready to run from the right.

Trump needs to be buried at sea like Bin Laden for the same reasons.

[facilitatorn]

Conservative Catholics need a woman president in the worst way. They need an uninterrupted generation of progressive women presidents.

[NeedsAdjustments]

The 53-34 per cent lead quickly dissipated for Clinton when she and Trump started making speeches.

LOL. Is that what happened?  They started making speeches and everyone realized how great Trump is?  Bet it was that first speech of his where he called Mexican immigrants “rapists” that really sealed the deal for you.

What actually happened was that Trump won the GOP nomination, and conventional Republicans fell in line.  Even then her lead in the polling was up to 8 percent less than a month before the election, before Comey tanked it.

17 months to go, yes.  But time isn’t on Trump’s side.  More days before the election mean more days for a strong economy to turn south, investigations in the House to gain steam, more revelations of his criminality to come out, or Trump’s mouth to truly get him in trouble (isn’t it amazing that the President of the United States publicly sides with the North Korean dictator who has threatened the US with nuclear weapons over the CIA and no one notices?  That shit will get magnified once there is a single opponent behind a lectern who can point to it.)

The “perfect” position for Trump would be the one you and he are pretending he is already in; 51% overall approval.  He isn’t.  Which was my original point.

[NeedsAdjustments]

You guys had better find somebody.  78?  And to be 86 end of second term?  Come on.

Drama.

Trump is only three years younger and is already exhibiting clear signs of dementia.

Not saying Biden's age would not be an issue.  But Trump in no position to highlight it.