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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Pete, Pete, Pete...



https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/21/pete-buttigieg-black-lives-matter-protesters-ebof-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/



they're soooooo angry, Mayor

[josh]

Yet earlier, Kid, you say, "The VOTE is that they are NOT voting."

But what Bart describes is not just a protest "vote"  - it's shutting down all voting.  Voting, in this case, would be to show up in Salem and cast a vote against Cap-&-trade.

The senators are legally required to be in Salem and allow a quorum.  Law enforcement can legitimately compel them to be there.   Just as it would compel you to show up for, say, court business.   It's not a police state to have police enforce laws.   An oath of office is legally binding.

Addressing the missing Republicans, who may have been watching on the live feed on the legislature’s website, he said: "I beg and beseech my fellow legislators to come to the floor. If you’re mad, take it out on me. Come at me. Don’t do this to the people of Oregon.”



Interesting that they need to be implored.   I thought it was LAW.

Seems 500 bucks a day will be nabbed from their checks......

again - interesting

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/06/oregon-senate-republicans-leave-the-state-to-avoid-climate-bill-vote.html

It is law, but  apparently that is insufficient to convince them to do their jobs.

So, one implores them.

[josh]

Why are the kids winning in these lawsuits - not just in the US?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-permafrost-idUSKCN1TJ1XN

The Canadian permafrost is melting far earlie than anybody projected.

[LarryBnDC]

Desperate Booker, Warren, and DeBlahzeeoh! Go after Joe. Why? Because he was able to work with the opposition.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734103488/democrats-blast-biden-for-recalling-civil-relationship-with-segregationists

Hmmmm. Maybe, just maybe, that's how you get things done, dummies!

Poor Joe. Too old. Too dumb. Too secict. Too white. Not woke!

And leading all the polls.

"Kick 'em, when they're up, kick 'em, when they're down...we love dirty laundry."

What do you expect to get done in the Senate?

McConnell doesn’t give a shit about anything but the acquisition and accumulation of power. He is nakedly partisan and would the country to the ground before giving any Democrat anything.

If you go by the polls from this time in 2007 the 2008 election would have been between Hillary and Rudy...

Joe Biden is like a favorite cardigan; comfortable, familiar but a bit thread worn and if you wear it everyday it’s gonna fray and come apart.

Joe will be fine... for a while.

And Booker is a fucking idiot. Reparations? Talk about perpetuating victimhood.

Fuck you and your bullshit victimhood. The only hood in here is on your pointy little head.

[LarryBnDC]

Besides being a Democrat and not Trump, what's the case for Biden? 

All I can come up with is that he was Obama's buddy and isn't as radical as many of the other Dems running.  Is it solely electability (more or less name recognition, at this point)?

But what is the affirmative case for Biden and what he would do?

He can win. There's the case. In a nutshell.

He has to win the primary... I don’t see it.

[arafura]

Why are the kids winning in these lawsuits - not just in the US?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-permafrost-idUSKCN1TJ1XN

The Canadian permafrost is melting far earlie than anybody projected.

Here's an idea...what about Al Gore stops flying around the world [oh all those carbon emissions] lecturing on climate change.
Also, the school kiddy climate change protesters be banned from having heaters, airconditioners, dryers, hair dryers, gas-guzzling cars driving them to school, phone battery chargers, flying off/being driven on holidays etc etc etc.
...for starters.
Then we old folks might join the choir.

[josh]

Why are the kids winning in these lawsuits - not just in the US?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-permafrost-idUSKCN1TJ1XN

The Canadian permafrost is melting far earlie than anybody projected.

Here's an idea...what about Al Gore stops flying around the world [oh all those carbon emissions] lecturing on climate change.
Also, the school kiddy climate change protesters be banned from having heaters, airconditioners, dryers, hair dryers, gas-guzzling cars driving them to school, phone battery chargers, flying off/being driven on holidays etc etc etc.
...for starters.
Then we old folks might join the choir.

Your bullshit is no less stinky than Kiiid's.

Why not make your decision on the merits, rather than based on Al Gore's travel? Oh, wait - it's because Al Goe's travel is just a convenient rock to throw, not something that really influences you.

It's like when the liberals propose spending money on something and the GOP comes back with "but what about all the homeless people?" They don't care about the homeless, just the scoreboard. "Gotcha!" they cry out.

[kiidcarter8]

Well, then...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/jerry-nadler-hope-hicks-lewandowski/index.html

[josh]

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/20/18693058/aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentration-camps-immigration-border?fbclid=IwAR04gI7HsDKoj0yh03eWwo8GqoMfv3NRQeGaxkumSVOGBqz_dr3Yf7GU5DU

I’m a Jewish historian. Yes, we should call border detention centers "concentration camps."

[josh]

The Trump administration has less civilization than the Somali pirates:

[HamiltonIII]

Besides being a Democrat and not Trump, what's the case for Biden? 

All I can come up with is that he was Obama's buddy and isn't as radical as many of the other Dems running.  Is it solely electability (more or less name recognition, at this point)?

But what is the affirmative case for Biden and what he would do?

He can win. There's the case. In a nutshell.

That's the case, but I think it is dead wrong.

His comments about (and ongoing pride in) his work with the segregationists will lose him too many progressives and too many Black and Hispanic voters to be able to beat Trump - but I think it will also preclude his getting the nomination.

You should get out more. Talk to real people, instead of the fellow ivory tower cellmates. Nobody wants Ms. Warren, but the left. The left doesn't win. The center wins.. The center holds.. you have to think about the whole country, Joshie, not just the folks down at the village Green.

[HamiltonIII]

Desperate Booker, Warren, and DeBlahzeeoh! Go after Joe. Why? Because he was able to work with the opposition.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734103488/democrats-blast-biden-for-recalling-civil-relationship-with-segregationists

Hmmmm. Maybe, just maybe, that's how you get things done, dummies!

Poor Joe. Too old. Too dumb. Too secict. Too white. Not woke!

And leading all the polls.

"Kick 'em, when they're up, kick 'em, when they're down...we love dirty laundry."

What do you expect to get done in the Senate?

McConnell doesn’t give a shit about anything but the acquisition and accumulation of power. He is nakedly partisan and would the country to the ground before giving any Democrat anything.

If you go by the polls from this time in 2007 the 2008 election would have been between Hillary and Rudy...

Joe Biden is like a favorite cardigan; comfortable, familiar but a bit thread worn and if you wear it everyday it’s gonna fray and come apart.

Joe will be fine... for a while.

And Booker is a fucking idiot. Reparations? Talk about perpetuating victimhood.

Fuck you and your bullshit victimhood. The only hood in here is on your pointy little head.

I

Besides being a Democrat and not Trump, what's the case for Biden? 

All I can come up with is that he was Obama's buddy and isn't as radical as many of the other Dems running.  Is it solely electability (more or less name recognition, at this point)?

But what is the affirmative case for Biden and what he would do?

He can win. There's the case. In a nutshell.

That's the case, but I think it is dead wrong.

His comments about (and ongoing pride in) his work with the segregationists will lose him too many progressives and too many Black and Hispanic voters to be able to beat Trump - but I think it will also preclude his getting the nomination.

Desperate Booker, Warren, and DeBlahzeeoh! Go after Joe. Why? Because he was able to work with the opposition.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734103488/democrats-blast-biden-for-recalling-civil-relationship-with-segregationists

Hmmmm. Maybe, just maybe, that's how you get things done, dummies!

Poor Joe. Too old. Too dumb. Too secict. Too white. Not woke!

And leading all the polls.

"Kick 'em, when they're up, kick 'em, when they're down...we love dirty laundry."

What do you expect to get done in the Senate?

McConnell doesn’t give a shit about anything but the acquisition and accumulation of power. He is nakedly partisan and would the country to the ground before giving any Democrat anything.

If you go by the polls from this time in 2007 the 2008 election would have been between Hillary and Rudy...

Joe Biden is like a favorite cardigan; comfortable, familiar but a bit thread worn and if you wear it everyday it’s gonna fray and come apart.

Joe will be fine... for a while.

And Booker is a fucking idiot. Reparations? Talk about perpetuating victimhood.

Fuck you and your bullshit victimhood. The only hood in here is on your pointy little head.

Poor 'Bama can't handle it,
 when the obvious fault in his stars is exposed.

Save your fuck yous for your commute, dipshit.

[facilitatorn]

Good to see Utley trippin again. It’s like old times.

Lewindowski or Hicks, it’s easy to mistake one invertebrate leach for another especially with all the smoke and all the fire billowing from their rolling crime spree.

[josh]

Besides being a Democrat and not Trump, what's the case for Biden? 

All I can come up with is that he was Obama's buddy and isn't as radical as many of the other Dems running.  Is it solely electability (more or less name recognition, at this point)?

But what is the affirmative case for Biden and what he would do?

He can win. There's the case. In a nutshell.

That's the case, but I think it is dead wrong.

His comments about (and ongoing pride in) his work with the segregationists will lose him too many progressives and too many Black and Hispanic voters to be able to beat Trump - but I think it will also preclude his getting the nomination.

You should get out more. Talk to real people, instead of the fellow ivory tower cellmates. Nobody wants Ms. Warren, but the left. The left doesn't win. The center wins.. The center holds.. you have to think about the whole country, Joshie, not just the folks down at the village Green.

Piggy, your opinions of my life continue to be of zero merit.

Your logic about Biden is similarly askew.

And your discussion of Warren is duly noted, but totally moot to what I am saying about Biden - raised presumably because you had nothing to say about Biden at all, let alone in regard to what I wrote.

In other words, you are full of crap and should go buy a clue.

[josh]

https://www.facebook.com/slpnggiants/videos/1612105728923304/

Listening to the Trump administration's lawyer trying to defend the position that "Safe and Sanitary" does not necessarily require them to provide toothpaste, soap, or blankets is very painful.

It would be high theater, were it not children's lives at issue.

If you want to see it in context, here is the hour it's within:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2GkDz9yEJA