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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #16665 on: July 13, 2019, 03:56:31 PM »

Only the best people:
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« Reply #16666 on: July 13, 2019, 04:39:14 PM »

One of the weirdest ironies is that the post of Labor secretary includes the duty of combating sex trafficking. 
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« Reply #16667 on: July 13, 2019, 05:39:10 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16668 on: July 13, 2019, 06:11:22 PM »

Dearest Bernie,
Re: your plan for “ free” college.
I got a better one.
And I ‘m paying for it.

Love,
Jeff

P.s
Capitalism wins every time.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2019, 06:26:18 PM by REDSTATEWARD »
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« Reply #16669 on: July 13, 2019, 06:43:44 PM »

https://apnews.com/e5e070c31f3c497fa9e6875f426ccde1?fbclid=IwAR3fcMnGq5IxI-2-VVMV_e-Zmxr39D0VEn3UqZLRX8buY0kcmG7L9zetHGE

Would you buy a new election system that ran on Windows 7 for your state's elections?!
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« Reply #16670 on: July 13, 2019, 07:21:30 PM »

Pence visits a detention center:


Oh, wait. My mistake.
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« Reply #16671 on: July 13, 2019, 07:23:19 PM »

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« Reply #16672 on: July 13, 2019, 07:27:36 PM »

The roundup of illegals has begun?

This is what happens to you when you rort the system...one day they come for you.
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« Reply #16673 on: July 13, 2019, 07:47:39 PM »

Dear Nancee

Please, Americans do not need any more cheap nannies, veggie pickers, and all the baggage that comes with chain migration. Bless the concept of Homeland security, one of the few things Bush the younger got right. So sad the little children being separated from their drug dealing fathers and sex trafficking mamacitas.
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« Reply #16674 on: July 13, 2019, 07:55:52 PM »

Dear Nancee

Please, Americans do not need any more cheap nannies, veggie pickers, and all the baggage that comes with chain migration. Bless the concept of Homeland security, one of the few things Bush the younger got right. So sad the little children being separated from their drug dealing fathers and sex trafficking mamacitas.

Dear Luee,

Learn facts, even though they disagree with your beliefs.

This is from when the numbers of illegal immigrants was higher than it is now.
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How big is the net benefit of immigration to the native-born population? Harvard Economist George Borjas is probably the most established academic critic of immigration. But even he admits that immigrants create net benefits for the native-born and, in the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics, puts this gain at $22 billion a year.2 Using his method of calculation and updating for more recent immigrant flows puts the number at more than $36 billion.


As part of a $14 trillion economy, $36 billion is a rather small number. However, a few words of caution are in order. First, other methods of calculating the net benefits of immigration lead to larger numbers, though all remain modest as a percent of our economy. Second, the current level of benefits that natives derive from immigration is directly related to the U.S. government’s restrictive immigration policies. If greater numbers were let in, if the U.S. government didn’t severely limit the number of skilled-worker H1-B visas, and if illegal immigrants had better access to formal-sector employment, the net gains could be larger. In any event, economists have wide agreement that immigration, like free trade, brings net benefits to the existing native-born population.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16675 on: July 13, 2019, 08:07:18 PM »

Aussie model to be sentenced on Monday.
'International incident'.
Prosecutors want one month incarceration [do female prisoners get raped in US prisons?], plus 3 months home detention.
A lot better than 21 years, 10 years, 5 years, 3 years, any years, in prison.

{I]Mornyang may avoid prison altogether, with probation officers pushing for Judge Cormac Carney to sentence her to three years of probation and a $US2000 ($A2849) fine.[/I]
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« Reply #16676 on: July 13, 2019, 10:12:04 PM »

Aussie model to be sentenced on Monday.
'International incident'.
Prosecutors want one month incarceration [do female prisoners get raped in US prisons?], plus 3 months home detention.
A lot better than 21 years, 10 years, 5 years, 3 years, any years, in prison.

{I]Mornyang may avoid prison altogether, with probation officers pushing for Judge Cormac Carney to sentence her to three years of probation and a $US2000 ($A2849) fine.[/I]

Yes, women in prison sometimes get raped, primarily by male guards.

They used to get involuntarily sterilized. Some suspect that some still do.
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« Reply #16677 on: July 13, 2019, 11:47:46 PM »

---Get it? More immigration means more workers,
which means higher GDP — which means… we
need more immigration.
Reality check: GDP does indeed rise when
new immigrants enter the labor force. But living
standards are best measured by per capita, not total,
GDP. Per capita income falls if immigrants are less
educated, productive, motivated — and earn less —
than natives. This is the case in the U.S., as seen in
the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) latest survey
of the immigrant workforce10.---

https://npg.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016NegativeEconomicImpactForumPaper.pdf

Sorry to smash the liberal elite dream of cheap nannies.
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« Reply #16678 on: July 14, 2019, 12:30:14 AM »

This is the case in the U.S., as seen in
the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) latest survey
of the immigrant workforce10.---

https://npg.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016NegativeEconomicImpactForumPaper.pdf

That would all make far more sense were the paper not ignoring some important facts. Have a look at Figure 5.

Note that at 1972, the rate of change flattened out, especially for median income. Even mean stopped rising so sharply, but there is a palpable dropoff for median.

Productivity–Pay Tracker
Change 1973–2017:
Productivity
+77.0%
Hourly pay
+12.4%
Productivity has grown 6.2x more than pay
https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/



He's got you looking in the wrong direction. Somehow, you think a 3.5% decrease is something worth complaining about and you go on and on about your fantasy liberals who want cheap nannies, like you are a cut-rate Ronald Reagan fighting the welfare queens. Equally fictional, but why worry about reality when you have a good straw man argument to pose.

So, you provided a paper that quotes numbers from Harvard Economist George Borjas. Great!

It's as if you didn't read the whole thing I linked or even the part I quoted:
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Harvard Economist George Borjas is probably the most established academic critic of immigration. But even he admits that immigrants create net benefits for the native-born

The native-born are better off with the immigrants here than not. The current head of the Fed has said the same thing, including the undocumented workers.

Further, as I have pointed out to you before, the figures you are citing neglect to include the impact of the children of those immigrants. It makes it cherry-picked data.
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« Reply #16679 on: July 14, 2019, 12:40:44 AM »

This is a far more nuanced look at the impact of immigration than either what I have posted previously or what you have. It looks at 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, at the impact of new immigrants on prior immigrants, and a host of other factors.

This is the summary chapter of The Economic and Fiscal Consequences of Immigration (2017) from the National Academies Press.

Give it a read!

https://www.nap.edu/read/23550/chapter/2
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