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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

Zero hypocrisy.  No idea even what you might be referring to.  Make arguments not assertions.

I was mocking Boz, and his intentional and inaccurate hyperbole, and his almost immediate 180 spin from an earlier post regarding shared responsibilities. I could care less if you do not understand a conversation I'm having with another poster.

As to "Adolph" that was an intended TIC reference meant in part to trigger clueless humorless moron(s) who would make far more of it than was intended.

And Mohammed thank you for proving my thesis.

We are in agreement though, I generally do not post in this forum, as I find meaningful discussions among posters with differing POV close to impossible to hold, as most folks are entirely dug-in.   

[josh]

BTW, Josh. What a dumbass poll that is at the top!

If that's your template, why not ask:
"How often do you beat your wife?
A) Once a week
B) At least twice a week
C) When she needs it
D) She left, but when I catch her, I'll make OJ look like Mother Teresa
E) This one of the last one?

It had a narrower purpose, in addition to the broader one that NA mentioned and it served that purpose ideally, Ham.

And... semantically, the gap between mine and your proposed poll is astronomical. Yours has no answer that is not damning. Conversely, we have at least one member here who is convinced that women are waiting around every corner for the chance to falsely accuse men of sexually assaulting them.

Because this polling system is for most purposes anonymous, it served its purposes just fine, even if it doesn' meet your standards.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Dang.  bankshot1 deleted the line about how there are few open minds here. 

Guess he understood what that statement opened him up to before I could point it out to him!

[bankshot1]

Dang.  bankshot1 deleted the line about how there are few open minds here. 

Guess he understood what that statement opened him up to before I could point it out to him!

I also deleted a line about being guilty of the sins I mentoned.

As I'm aware of the sin, and when I sin. as I do have a conscience and a fairly open mind.

[josh]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

[bankshot1]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for the clarification, Josh, its good to know that we have now pin-pointed Middle-East instability as having originated in 2003.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for the clarification, Josh, its good to know that we have now pin-pointed Middle-East instability as having originated in 2003.

bankshot1's open mind (and reading ability) is unmatched on this forum!

But maybe not in a good way.

[josh]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for the clarification, Josh, its good to know that we have now pin-pointed Middle-East instability as having originated in 2003.

Good try, but no. Increased instability, yes.

Indeed, the person who most overtly predicted that there would be increased instability was Dick Cheney. He was against deposing Saddam before he was in favor of it.

[bankshot1]

Its reassuring to know my point which should have been obvious to grasp, (1991 or 2003 as the pont for ME instability-Really???) completing escapes the clueless NA.

Instead he ineffectuallty deflects.

[Hairy Lime]

Iran is the threat to stabilization in the region, and in Central Asia. Wake the fuck up.

Your post is Orwellian.
The US attacked and waged war on Afghanistan and Iraq, the neighbors on either side of Iran.  Destroying their gov'ts, killing and displacing large chunks of their population, unleashing sectarian violence, while unable to secure any kind of stable gov't in the war's aftermath.  Indeed fighting and insurgency have been their post-war fates for the past decade and a half.  Yet you claim it's Iran that is the threat to regional stabilization.  Unbelievable.

You think Israel is destabilizing?  You're lost on this issue, child.

Totally fucking lost.

Sorry but under the banks.rule if you criticize one side you must.also criticize the other or you are an anti-Palestinian bigot.

poor boz employs a little hyperbole when his hypocrisy was exposed.

Goodnight Adolph

heh

The hypocrisy is yours. You react this way to every criticism of Israel.

[LarryBnDC]

Iran is the threat to stabilization in the region, and in Central Asia. Wake the fuck up.

Your post is Orwellian.
The US attacked and waged war on Afghanistan and Iraq, the neighbors on either side of Iran.  Destroying their gov'ts, killing and displacing large chunks of their population, unleashing sectarian violence, while unable to secure any kind of stable gov't in the war's aftermath.  Indeed fighting and insurgency have been their post-war fates for the past decade and a half.  Yet you claim it's Iran that is the threat to regional stabilization.  Unbelievable.

You think Israel is destabilizing?  You're lost on this issue, child.
Totally fucking lost.

Is there one mention of, or reference to, Israel in my post above that you quoted?  I suppose you could find the letters that make up the country's name and construct the word Israel a la ransom-notes.

poor boz employs a little hyperbole when his hypocrisy was exposed.
Goodnight Adolph

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Zero hypocrisy.  No idea even what you might be referring to.  Make arguments not assertions.

Adolph?
Jeez, you're an internet blowhard and representative of why I usually don't discuss politics here or on the internet in general.

Also, all the insults and harshness here is pretty unappealing.
This is an unusual forum.

Further, I read everything the same way NeedsA did, which seemed really the only way to interpret the insinuations and such, especially given their context.  Most of his posts the last few days I could have written myself.

Lastly, I'd encourage folks to go to Israel and to visit the West Bank.  See the land at issue, meet the people involved, get a deeper understanding of what is going on and where things stand.

Quite.

[bankshot1]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for the clarification, Josh, its good to know that we have now pin-pointed Middle-East instability as having originated in 2003.

Good try, but no. Increased instability, yes.

Indeed, the person who most overtly predicted that there would be increased instability was Dick Cheney. He was against deposing Saddam before he was in favor of it.

Not my try, I did not pin point 1991 or 2003 as the inflection point from which we should measure ME instability. I found it a fascinating choice.

[josh]

Its reassuring to know my point which should have been obvious to grasp, (1991 or 2003 as the pont for ME instability-Really???) completing escapes the clueless NA.

Instead he ineffectuallty deflects.

But you keep saying "the point" when that wasn't the point - it was "a point" that was his point.

Glad to point that out.

Cue Nilsson!

[josh]

Zero hyperbole from me.  The US destabilized the ME by invading Iraq, and overthrowing the Saddam/Baathist regime.  The war and aftermath/mess in Afghanistan similarly destabilized Central Asia.

Thanks Bo-Its helpful to understand your agenda when you place Ground Zero of Middle-East instability at 1991. That provides me another prism to understand your POV.

I am pretty confident in asserting that he did not say (or mean) that 1991 was Ground Zero.

It can have plenty of issues and yet be further destabilized in 1991. I'd also note that he didn't mean the first invasion of Iraq, but the second, so far more recent! 2003, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for the clarification, Josh, its good to know that we have now pin-pointed Middle-East instability as having originated in 2003.

Good try, but no. Increased instability, yes.

Indeed, the person who most overtly predicted that there would be increased instability was Dick Cheney. He was against deposing Saddam before he was in favor of it.

Not my try, I did not pin point 1991 or 2003 as the inflection point from which we should measure ME instability.

And neither did he.

[bankshot1]

Iran is the threat to stabilization in the region, and in Central Asia. Wake the fuck up.

Your post is Orwellian.
The US attacked and waged war on Afghanistan and Iraq, the neighbors on either side of Iran.  Destroying their gov'ts, killing and displacing large chunks of their population, unleashing sectarian violence, while unable to secure any kind of stable gov't in the war's aftermath.  Indeed fighting and insurgency have been their post-war fates for the past decade and a half.  Yet you claim it's Iran that is the threat to regional stabilization.  Unbelievable.

You think Israel is destabilizing?  You're lost on this issue, child.

Totally fucking lost.

Sorry but under the banks.rule if you criticize one side you must.also criticize the other or you are an anti-Palestinian bigot.

poor boz employs a little hyperbole when his hypocrisy was exposed.

Goodnight Adolph

heh

The hypocrisy is yours. You react this way to every criticism of Israel.

Boz You're wrong, I post very little about Israel here, as there is generally no point.

But as to your mistaken post, I started this recent thread a few days ago with a highly critical post about Israel.

Sorry to burst your bubble with the truth.