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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/21/trump-administration-proposes-indefinite-detention-migrant-children/2068163001/?fbclid=IwAR3INXsdigLMYdSd8I1-JLDubDM6q81wkgwFEEnUdciWEBmWK7cI_oSaBk8

Let's stop all pretense that the US government in its current formation has a shred of moral integrity.

[josh]

Harvard Law had an affirmative action program at the time that Obama applied but nobody except the admissions office personnel knows whether they used those criteria in his case, and those people aren't saying. We do know that before Harvard and other Law schools started to admit people of color and women, white men got into those Law schools through affirmative-action programs over black people and other people of color and women who were more qualified than they were. Once again, we do not know whether this was true in any particular case, that is, whether a particular white man would have been admitted independently of his race and sex.

And now I know why you didn't provide a citation for this one.

But did you bother to read it?

[josh]

https://www.law.com/2019/08/09/fail-affirmative-action-suit-dismissed-against-harvard-law-review-college/?slreturn=20190721113143

[josh]

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/scientists-have-been-underestimating-the-pace-of-climate-change/?fbclid=IwAR37rPUtIWWQynOWbjDcQsW8cW5KTbgbekTLsRVGnSc2GD8m6e_BmisKNPA

[kiidcarter8]

Kid

with all the challenges we as a nation face, both domestic and foreign, and social,  political and economic, what is the possible relevance of Obama's school days at Harvard and the goal of creating a stronger nation?

Not so much...

No reason for them to hide it, either.

I made one comment.  Others here took the ball and ran with it.

[kiidcarter8]

Very amusing that Red thinks a fluctuation in a weather pattern lasting a few weeks is more significant than a global temperature increase, enormous glacial and snowfield melts at unprecedented rates, ocean acidification, massive coral reef die-offs, intensified storms, massive migrations of species out of warming habitats...and not over thousands of years as climate shifts have formerly taken place between ice ages, but rather following a curve predicted early in the Industrial Revolution by Svante Arrhenius and later confirmed by Keeling in the 1950s, and accelerating due to ever greater CO2 and methane rises predicted (and warned about,) in the 1970s.   

Usually, when scientific predictions and mountains of new data match this well, it compels people to recognize established facts.   As the IPCC has shown in their latest reports, anthropogenic GW has moved from speculative theory to well-supported fact, and the evidence is screaming at us from every direction.   Even from my little corner of the globe which, back in the 1950s, had no mosquitoes.   And was advertized to tourists as such.

I never questioned Climate Change.

Wait - what?  Then why are you painted here as such?

[josh]

[kiidcarter8]

"The economy is strong IN SPITE OF (Donald Trump)"

W Goldberg, 8/21/19

MEDIC!!!

[josh]

The FBI arrested the former head of the Mass. State Police union and the union's lobbyist at their homes this morning. The ex-union head, Dana Pullman, vociferously defended state troopers accused in that massive fraud scandal, but was himself being investigated. And today, the FBI accused Pullman of accepting illegal bribes and kickbacks from that lobbyist, Anne Lynch, over six years in a scheme to defraud the union membership of thousands of dollars and deny the state of Massachusetts of honest services.

The FBI, doing their thing.

[bankshot1]

The Master Negotiator's hissy fit over not getting what he wanted was hilarious. Although maybe he could swap California and New York to the Danes, and do it in time for the 2020 election.

Art of the Deal!

Although giving away G-8 membership to the Ruskies for nothing seems dumb.

I wonder what he got in return?

[luee]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/21/trump-administration-proposes-indefinite-detention-migrant-children/2068163001/?fbclid=IwAR3INXsdigLMYdSd8I1-JLDubDM6q81wkgwFEEnUdciWEBmWK7cI_oSaBk8

Let's stop all pretense that the US government in its current formation has a shred of moral integrity.

Only way to stop anchor baby onslaught and chain migration? Would still be preferable to be held in US, to morbid conditions in Central American countries to many prospective migrants. Many legal questions. Moral integrity means defending the laws?

---Bernie Sanders releases plan to double union membership as Democrats fight for labor support---

At least a dem candidate remembers that there is more in the world than cheap nannies and air pollution. HRC forgot the blue collar guy and lost.

[kiidcarter8]

McAleenan added that there are three family residential centers with what he described as "campus-like settings" with medical, educational and private housing facilities. The acting secretary said that detained families will have access to indoor and outdoor entertainment, legal counsel, translation services and medical care -- including any immunizations their children might need for later admission to US public schools.


doesnt sound so bad

"The facilities that we will be using to temporarily house families under this rule are appropriately, fundamentally different than the facilities where migrants are processed following apprehension or encounter at the border,"




https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/immigration-family-detention-flores/index.html

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/21/trump-administration-proposes-indefinite-detention-migrant-children/2068163001/?fbclid=IwAR3INXsdigLMYdSd8I1-JLDubDM6q81wkgwFEEnUdciWEBmWK7cI_oSaBk8

Let's stop all pretense that the US government in its current formation has a shred of moral integrity.

Only way to stop anchor baby onslaught and chain migration? Would still be preferable to be held in US, to morbid conditions in Central American countries to many prospective migrants. Many legal questions. Moral integrity means defending the laws?

---Bernie Sanders releases plan to double union membership as Democrats fight for labor support---

At least a dem candidate remembers that there is more in the world than cheap nannies and air pollution. HRC forgot the blue collar guy and lost.

The sooner Bernie puts his support behind Warren the better off they both (and the party) will be

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/21/trump-administration-proposes-indefinite-detention-migrant-children/2068163001/?fbclid=IwAR3INXsdigLMYdSd8I1-JLDubDM6q81wkgwFEEnUdciWEBmWK7cI_oSaBk8

Let's stop all pretense that the US government in its current formation has a shred of moral integrity.

Only way to stop anchor baby onslaught and chain migration? Would still be preferable to be held in US, to morbid conditions in Central American countries to many prospective migrants. Many legal questions. Moral integrity means defending the laws?

---Bernie Sanders releases plan to double union membership as Democrats fight for labor support---

At least a dem candidate remembers that there is more in the world than cheap nannies and air pollution. HRC forgot the blue collar guy and lost.

There is no "anchor baby onslaught," even when you use slurs.

"Moral integrity means defending the laws?"

So, you're one of the people who thinks Dred Scott was a moral decision? That locking up a man for 20 years for possession of pot (without intention to sell being asserted) is moral because it was "defending the laws?"

Your moral compass is broken. Badly broken.

[josh]

McAleenan added that there are three family residential centers with what he described as "campus-like settings" with medical, educational and private housing facilities. The acting secretary said that detained families will have access to indoor and outdoor entertainment, legal counsel, translation services and medical care -- including any immunizations their children might need for later admission to US public schools.


doesnt sound so bad

"The facilities that we will be using to temporarily house families under this rule are appropriately, fundamentally different than the facilities where migrants are processed following apprehension or encounter at the border,"


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/immigration-family-detention-flores/index.html

What part of "indefinite detention" strikes you as moral? Would you consider it acceptable for you?

Sure, it's better than the travesty of the concentration camps they have kids and adults in now, Kid, but going from "We treat these people like vermin" to "We treat this people like well-kept prisoners, still in violation of our treaty obligations and in violation of decency" is not doing good, merely doing slightly less evil.