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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19260 on: August 22, 2019, 03:15:10 PM »

I never commented on Fox

"Has nothing to do with Fox" is a comment on Fox.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19261 on: August 22, 2019, 03:51:57 PM »

Roger Ailes managed a chuckle as he burns for eternity.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19262 on: August 22, 2019, 04:20:51 PM »

Has nothing to do with Fox

They signed her, despite that.

It's about Trump, about Sanders, and about Fox.

My comment was about Sanders mention of NDA
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19263 on: August 22, 2019, 04:26:39 PM »

How predictable:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/media/sarah-sanders-fox-news/index.html

Not only confirmed that she is someone who lies for the "president" but also confirmed that Trump Administration officials sign NDAs that extend past their employment there.



Standard

Got any evidence that any prior president ever required such? Not even Nixon.

So, no - not standard. Paranoid and problematic.

Make Google your friend
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19264 on: August 22, 2019, 05:27:06 PM »

How predictable:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/media/sarah-sanders-fox-news/index.html

Not only confirmed that she is someone who lies for the "president" but also confirmed that Trump Administration officials sign NDAs that extend past their employment there.



Standard

Got any evidence that any prior president ever required such? Not even Nixon.

So, no - not standard. Paranoid and problematic.

Make Google your friend

You made the claim. Show me.

I can't search for "list of presidents who did not use NDAs."

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19265 on: August 22, 2019, 05:28:46 PM »

More impact from the non-existent climate change.

https://wapo.st/2ZkcSb8?fbclid=IwAR3WQVSPXBPud5UHbnZFc0pnx62ytd-cJmIu739GMYyMncYrfjuIG2TPOLA

And yes, Bambi, we know your #2 radio host changed his tune from "climate change is a hoax" to "man-made climate change is a hoax," but we know where he and you started.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19266 on: August 22, 2019, 06:15:44 PM »

Has nothing to do with Fox

They signed her, despite that.

It's about Trump, about Sanders, and about Fox.

My comment was about Sanders mention of NDA

Which was about FOX as the point of my post was that they hired someone for political commentary that signed a contract not to say anything bad (ie lie) about Trump.

Which to anyone with any kind of common sense would be an indicator that objectivity or truth is not something Fox is looking for in their political commentators. 

So yes.  Its about FOX.
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« Reply #19267 on: August 22, 2019, 06:24:23 PM »

How predictable:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/media/sarah-sanders-fox-news/index.html

Not only confirmed that she is someone who lies for the "president" but also confirmed that Trump Administration officials sign NDAs that extend past their employment there.



Standard

Got any evidence that any prior president ever required such? Not even Nixon.

So, no - not standard. Paranoid and problematic.

Make Google your friend

If you googled it and came up with an example you would have posted it.  Like you did with your White Supremacist buddies.

Alternatively, how about paying attention to current events?  It was well noted when news of the NDAs broke that this is not normal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/everyone-signed-one-trump-is-aggressive-in-his-use-of-nondisclosure-agreements-even-in-government/2018/08/13/9d0315ba-9f15-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html?noredirect=on

Dozens of White House aides have signed NDAs in exchange for working for Trump, who has long relied on such agreements in his business career, according to current and former administration employees. But NDAs have not been widely used by past administrations outside the transition time between presidents, in part because most legal experts believe such agreements are not legally enforceable for public employees.

Copies of Trump NDAs obtained by The Washington Post or described by current and former aides lay out breathtakingly broad prohibitions on behavior and appear to be drawn heavily from similar contracts used in the past by the Trump Organization, the president’s family firm.

Under one agreement from the 2016 campaign, signers promised not to “demean or disparage publicly” Trump, his company or any member of his family — and also not to assist any other politician exploring a federal or state office...

The NDA that she declined to sign prohibited sharing information “including but not limited to the assets, investments, revenue, expenses, taxes, financial statements, actual or prospective business ventures, contracts, alliances, affiliations, relationships, affiliated entities, bids, letters of intent, term sheets, decisions, strategies, techniques, methods, projections, forecasts, customers, clients, contacts, customer lists, contact lists, schedules, appointments, meetings, conversations, notes and other communications” of “Trump, Pence, any Trump or Pence Family member, any Trump or Pence company, or any Trump or Pence Family Member Company.”

The proposed agreement also said her nondisclosure promise would last forever, even if the agreement and payments did not.

But the use of such agreements is seen as highly unusual by experts outside Trump’s White House.

“The NDAs of which the president is fond cannot help control the backbiting, turmoil and mistrust that roils this White House,” said Bob Bauer, a professor at New York University Law School, who served as White House counsel under President Barack Obama. “In fact, his futile resort to these documents is a symptom of the very problem he is trying to solve — and that he is responsible for creating.”

Fleischer said Bush aides weren’t asked to sign such agreements unless they saw highly classified, sensitive information.

Aides to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said they had never been asked to sign a nondisclosure agreement. Numerous GOP staffers elsewhere on Capitol Hill said the same.

“I have never heard of anyone being asked to sign one,” said Dan Pfeiffer, a former spokesman for Obama.

“It would be unthinkable,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s former counselor.

Mark Zaid, a longtime national security lawyer in Washington, said he had never taken a client who had been asked to sign a document not to share information that was unclassified.

“Never even heard about it being whispered in the hallways,” Zaid said. “As far as a public employee goes, it would be unconstitutional to prevent a federal employee from discussing unclassified information post-employment.”

The use of NDAs was de rigueur during the Trump campaign, officials said. “Everyone signed one,” said one former campaign aide.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #19268 on: August 22, 2019, 07:26:45 PM »

There’s a difference between a crime spree and a campaign, just as there is a difference between a political party and a criminal organization.

Once NDAs started to come out people understood they were not looking at a party or campaign, but at the other thing. Some signed up anyway which tells you all you need to know about their characters and their intentions.

I don’t know how long the gnarly woman will last at Fox. Dirty Deficit Don didn’t even want her on TV when she was his press secretary. How’s he going to feel about her showing up in his executive time?

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« Reply #19269 on: August 22, 2019, 07:42:38 PM »

136 and counting, picking up steam every day.

http://www.emptywheel.net/2019/08/21/whip-it-good-crack-that-whip/
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« Reply #19270 on: August 22, 2019, 09:50:41 PM »

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“None of you women will know this, but a couple men may remember,” Biden said. “That was the time in the early late ’60s, the early ’60s and ’60s, where it was ‘Drop out, go to Haight-Ashbury, don’t get engaged, don’t trust anybody over 30.’ I mean, for real. What happened to them by the early ’70s, the late ’60s, there was a whole generation that said ‘Enough.’ The war in Vietnam was underway.”

That was afterr he corrected himself in claiming that the Bobby Kennedy and MLK Jr assassinations came in the late 70s.
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« Reply #19271 on: August 23, 2019, 12:16:57 AM »

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« Reply #19272 on: August 23, 2019, 01:52:22 AM »

https://globalnews.ca/news/5794191/amazon-rainforest-fire-explained/?fbclid=IwAR1fDzFe2I2XDs9jhqZ-Ph8MiWBZL3Ha-W_7F1apVgkVgnvPOl1cwFJKWYo

What caused the Amazon rainforest fires and why do the activists blame Brazil's president?

(A different article explains why the president insists that the activists set the fires to make him look bad. Sounds like Trump's complaints about the use of the word "recession.")
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« Reply #19274 on: August 23, 2019, 03:23:08 AM »

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