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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21405 on: October 08, 2019, 01:36:50 PM »
Quote from: josh on October 08, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
Kid. you were busy defending the president's Syria decision.

This piece touches on many of the reasons that it was dumb, dumb, dumb.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/opinions/trump-syria-us-troops-withdrawal-bergen/index.html

Kiid has failed to make a quality life in the American system. He’s hoping that he’ll do better in one where jingoistic toady boot-licks like himself get an extra leg up.
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Will the Supreme Court grant trump work release to attend the republican national convention?

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21406 on: October 08, 2019, 01:56:48 PM »
Polling on Trump out today from the Washington Post:

Does Trump uphold adequate standards for ethics?  60% no 35% yes.
Should Congress have started an impeachment inquiry?  58% yes 38 % no.
Of those that support the inquiry, 49% say Trump should be impeached.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-majority-of-americans-say-they-endorse-opening-of-house-impeachment-inquiry-of-trump/2019/10/07/be9e0af6-e936-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html

Even kiidcarter8 said that he is fine with an inquiry, and wants to be sure that all the facts come out before the impeachment is voted on.

So how then are we to take the obstruction of the Trump Administration, preventing testimony of the relevant players, along with not sharing relevant documents and text messages?

How will that go over with an American public that by and large supports an inquiry, and fully understands why it is necessary?

 
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21407 on: October 08, 2019, 02:01:14 PM »
FYI, here is 538's impeachment poll tracker, currently showing support for impeachment at 49.5% to 42.4%.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/do-americans-support-impeaching-president-trump/

Over 6% increase in support of impeachment from Republicans since the Ukraine stuff started.  Almost 11% increase in support from independents.

You would think that given the atmosphere of distrust around the "president" and given the total innocence of interactions with Ukraine where there has been no quid pro quo at all, that Trump would be doing all he can to allow the facts to come out.

Only he is doing just the opposite.  Huh.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21408 on: October 08, 2019, 02:02:54 PM »
https://t.co/xc7r8BtfA1?amp=1&fbclid=IwAR3dhIgQKRQZrEtrHXeA-f_voDydXgOO9FpFU12ilqKm8qvayq7cpFe4fv0

Spat over Trump vs. Warren bumperstickers.

Trump supporter pulls his gun.

Seems consistent.

Good guy with gun.

Right?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21409 on: October 08, 2019, 02:55:01 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21410 on: October 08, 2019, 03:27:59 PM »
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The day Richard Nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day he was subject to impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress, and he became the judge and jury." ~Lindsey Graham

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21411 on: October 08, 2019, 03:38:07 PM »
Greta was here yesterday.  I saw her speak at a rally in Memorial Park, then lead a march to Mayor's office.   Larger than usual turnout for Rapid City.  She really seems to be motivating young people to get involved.   She is so tiny.  Not a trait I've often encountered in Swedes.  Her spirit, however, is generously proportioned.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21412 on: October 08, 2019, 05:52:12 PM »
I'm interested in seeing your work, Deej, but the attached format often doesn't load well on Android devices, either just a blank or a verry low rez image.  Have you tried some sort of cloud storage like photobucket?  That way you can just put an image url in the img brackets. 

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21413 on: October 08, 2019, 05:54:09 PM »
Oh, and yes, the president appears increasingly demented.   We seem to have moved from if to when.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21414 on: October 08, 2019, 06:49:05 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on October 08, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
https://www.westfargopioneer.com/news/government-and-politics/4711406-Swedish-activist-Greta-Thunberg-brings-climate-message-to-Standing-Rock-Sioux-Nation

a bit more interesting

“Only somebody like that can wake up the world,” he said. “We stand with you. We appreciate you. We love you as a relative.”

Respect.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21415 on: October 08, 2019, 09:22:50 PM »
Ah, the Law and Order president.

The originalist GOP.

"We have nothing to hide, but we are going to hide it all."

https://www.wcvb.com/article/white-house-tells-house-dems-the-administration-wont-comply-with-impeachment-inquiry/29404624?fbclid=IwAR02Qrw4dw5qmymHaaHDhquj44olc9_vQ3h3XCco8SIznDFlUINKMAdcIgY

No self-awareness. No perspective.

And, as ever, no caring about the nation, just himself.

If I were the Amb. to Ukraine, I would be testifying, even if I had to resign to do it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21416 on: October 08, 2019, 09:38:27 PM »
All Nancy has to is call Trump’s move by authorizing a vote in the House for an inquiry.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21417 on: October 08, 2019, 09:39:30 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21418 on: October 08, 2019, 09:42:42 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on October 08, 2019, 09:38:27 PM
All Nancy has to is call Trump’s move by authorizing a vote in the House for an inquiry.

Your head is so far up your as on this topic it is hard to believe it hasn't appeared in your stomach.

He won't coeaoperate then, either.

The House does not need to have that vote to be able to have hearings and get testimony and depositions.

And when the subpoenas are issued, the WH will still refuse to honor them - he believes he is the best president ever and that they are impeaching him because of it.

He cannot admit that what he did *might* have been wrong, let along that it was. So, asking about it makes you treasonous - or as he put it, #impeachromney!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #21419 on: October 08, 2019, 09:59:06 PM »
Quote from: josh on October 08, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on October 08, 2019, 09:38:27 PM
All Nancy has to is call Trump’s move by authorizing a vote in the House for an inquiry.

Your head is so far up your as on this topic it is hard to believe it hasn't appeared in your stomach.

He won't coeaoperate then, either.

The House does not need to have that vote to be able to have hearings and get testimony and depositions.

And when the subpoenas are issued, the WH will still refuse to honor them - he believes he is the best president ever and that they are impeaching him because of it.

He cannot admit that what he did *might* have been wrong, let along that it was. So, asking about it makes you treasonous - or as he put it, #impeachromney!
LOL!
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