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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22830 on: November 01, 2019, 02:51:47 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

I know, which is why I addressed both points clearly.  Including a rebuttal of your assumption that those regulations were "unnecessary" when lifting them has clearly made the health of the country worse.

obviously not since consumer spending is a driving force in the improving economy.

You are addressing the effect as though it is the cause.  Yes, consumer spending is helping to drive the economy.  The cause of increased consumer spending has been wage increases.  Note we have seen the rate of increase in the  Consumer Spending Index decrease as wages have.  And those increases in wages are due to...

I can see you are blind to what has happened. We now have record employment, and more jobs than workers able to fill them. A situation that increasing wages will help to correct.

I can see that I am having a conversation about the economy with someone who doesn't understand an economic principle as simple as Supply and Demand.  Increasing wages are not going to "correct" the fact that there are more jobs than workers.  The fact that there are more jobs than workers mean that employers need to pay higher wages to hire them.  Supply...Demand.  And was explained to you many times some increase in wages can be expected as unemployment decreases due to the employment trends Obama put is on.

LOL I can see why Impeachment is your more favored topic.
Good luck with that.

LOL.  Our air is bad for breathing meaning people get sick and die, but Oil Execs are making bank!  I guess in Republican circles that is funny.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22831 on: November 01, 2019, 02:56:07 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22832 on: November 01, 2019, 03:09:07 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
As we found when taxes and regulations went down the unemployed went back to work.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22833 on: November 01, 2019, 03:38:34 PM »

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WASHINGTON—U.S. employers hired at a solid clip in October, showing the job market remains strong even in the face of labor strikes and trade disputes.

The economy added 128,000 jobs in October, the Labor Department reported Friday. Job creation in September and August was revised up by a net 95,000. The jobless rate ticked up to 3.6% last month from 3.5% in September. The prior month’s reading was the lowest rate since December 1969.

Meanwhile, wage gains continued to outpace inflation. Average hourly earnings climbed 3% from October 2018.Yes

Farm bankruptcies up 24%.

Manufacturing jobs down.

Largest coal company filed for bankruptcy.

Growth in economy? 1.9%, or grounds for impeachment according to Donald Trump.
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« Reply #22834 on: November 01, 2019, 03:47:00 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
I posted the numbers earlier. If you can post numbers that contradict the BLS, show us. Put up or shut up.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22836 on: November 01, 2019, 04:03:54 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
I posted the numbers earlier. If you can post numbers that contradict the BLS, show us. Put up or shut up.
LOL
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« Reply #22837 on: November 01, 2019, 04:23:09 PM »

 :-X
I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
I posted the numbers earlier. If you can post numbers that contradict the BLS, show us. Put up or shut up.
LOL

Lie, deny, or obfuscate clearly needs to add "LOL" to the list.

Job creation under Obama's last 3 years outpaced Trump's first three years according to the BLS.

Just not according to you. Got it.

LOL, indeed.
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« Reply #22838 on: November 01, 2019, 04:46:44 PM »

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« Reply #22839 on: November 01, 2019, 04:48:44 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
I posted the numbers earlier. If you can post numbers that contradict the BLS, show us. Put up or shut up.
LOL
Put up or.shut up.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22840 on: November 01, 2019, 04:53:54 PM »

Communities need to organize and create their own power companies, and finance all of the equipment to go green and to go underground with the power lines.

One example is the situation in Anaheim, where the people of the city own the power company, we sell electricity to Disneyland, etc, and some of the money goes into a General Fund to help the homeless, and to build playgrounds for the children, etc. And all of the power lines in Anaheim will be underground in the next 50 years.

The people need to organize, and get some bankers, and people need to learn about all of the best new equipment so far as going green, and equipment for putting wires underground, etc, and the people need to go green, and go with the power companies being owned by the communities.

Salute,

Tony V.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22842 on: November 01, 2019, 04:55:18 PM »

I was talking about the improved economy thanks to decreased taxes and bureaucratic red tape imposed by unnecessary regulations.

Except of course job creation in the higher tax, better regulated Obama administration outpaces what has happened under Trump.
Except that was not happening.
I posted the numbers earlier. If you can post numbers that contradict the BLS, show us. Put up or shut up.

You can see where the tax bill was passed riiiiigggghhhht there!

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22843 on: November 01, 2019, 05:43:55 PM »

Say Adios to Beto.
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