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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23145 on: November 06, 2019, 07:01:17 PM »

With friends like these...

Graham: Trump administration 'incapable of forming a quid pro quo,' Ukraine policy 'incoherent'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/lindsey-graham-trump-administration-ukraine-policy/index.html

Still not true, Lindsey, but a fine try.

You know an administration's in trouble when the best defense a lackey can come up with boils down to "they're too stupid to achieve actual wrongdoing." 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23146 on: November 06, 2019, 07:02:58 PM »

The slowest learner I know claims to live in Australia.

Not slow enough to ever set foot in Mexico though. :)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23147 on: November 06, 2019, 07:06:08 PM »

GASP!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/us-turkey-weapon-misuse/index.html

US believes reports that Turkey misused US weapons in invasion.

What on earth is the US doing giving weapons to Turkey?  or selling them.

You'd think Washington would've learnt from what happened when it armed Indonesia and gave it the green light to invade East Timor.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23148 on: November 06, 2019, 07:13:25 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23149 on: November 06, 2019, 07:17:57 PM »

GASP!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/us-turkey-weapon-misuse/index.html

US believes reports that Turkey misused US weapons in invasion.

Yeah...you can only make a deal - then hope the other side upholds...

If not - measures. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23150 on: November 06, 2019, 08:11:30 PM »

GASP!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/us-turkey-weapon-misuse/index.html

US believes reports that Turkey misused US weapons in invasion.

What on earth is the US doing giving weapons to Turkey?  or selling them.

You'd think Washington would've learnt from what happened when it armed Indonesia and gave it the green light to invade East Timor.

What would ever give you the idea that they would've learned?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23151 on: November 06, 2019, 08:14:01 PM »

GASP!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/us-turkey-weapon-misuse/index.html

US believes reports that Turkey misused US weapons in invasion.

Yeah...you can only make a deal - then hope the other side upholds...

No. You can evaluate the chance of their upolding in advance, like you are supposed to.

If not - measures.

Stomping feet.

Waving fist in air.

Shouting invectives over the phone.

Yeah, "measures."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23153 on: November 06, 2019, 09:42:03 PM »

Dems need to call anyone who’s name appeared on a charging document for any charge stemming from the Mueller Investigation to appear in open session to both establish the pattern of illegal and obstructive behavior and to document the depth and duration of the contacts between the unsavory characters in public housing, be it lock up or the White House.
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« Reply #23155 on: November 06, 2019, 11:47:05 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/trump-barr-press-conference/index.html

Trump wanted Barr to hold a press conference announcing that Trump was cleared of any wrong-doing in his call with Ukraine.

Barr, amazingly enough, refused to do it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23156 on: November 07, 2019, 02:22:24 AM »

My point was that we are allowing hundreds of billions a year to flow to drug cartels and to China.  These are not our buddies.  Legalize drugs and you cut out the huge profits and most illegal activity surrounding that commerce.  Severely reduce business with China and transfer manufacturing to Mexico, Central and South America and you provide jobs and build up a middle class there.  Also, get an increased tax base so the Gov'ts have more money to improve infrastructure and provide better policing, more security.

One thing unusual about US style capitalism is we more or less leave strategic policy up to companies trying to make profits, rather than guiding US corporate investment to serve geo-political goals.

I think it's great that 3 or 400M Chinese have been lifted out of poverty.  But the flipside is that we have emboldened an adversary and helped them beef up a military that threatens US interests.
I've said before that we could have tailored this so that our goods were manufactured in India, Mexico, Brazil, South America strengthening allies instead.

In many ways the War on Drugs has been a huge failure.  And so has trade with China.  Hundreds of billions per year have been transferred to players who are not our allies.  My point is the US should stop buying drug via murderous middlemen and stop buying manufactured goods from China.  It's a different world if Mexico and Brasil or India are the Factory of the World, and the drugs aren't illegal and drug gangs aren't raking in huge profits.  These aren't hard changes to make.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23157 on: November 07, 2019, 05:05:09 AM »

If the republican pig farm had drowned in its bathtub the first time Bill Barr ran an obstruction scam from the attorney general’s office, these kinds of win-win decisions would have been possible in time.

Alas, the ratfucking mob lives to this day.

It’s lost some feeling in Virginia and it’s coughing up blood in Kentucky, so maybe there’s hope if we work for it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23158 on: November 07, 2019, 10:16:23 AM »

Nice to see that Pam Bondi is the type of honest politician who stays bought.
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« Reply #23159 on: November 07, 2019, 12:31:53 PM »

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According to NBC News’ reporting, Bondi will have “special government employee” status, which means she’ll be “brought into the government part time under less-stringent ethics rules than would apply to normal federal employees, including allowing them to continue their outside work.”

Adding to the interest, of course, is the previous controversy surrounding Trump and the former Florida state attorney general.

As regular readers may recall, in late August 2013, Bondi reached out to Trump, seeking financial support for her re-election campaign in Florida. A month later, Bondi’s office acknowledged that it was investigating fraud allegations against the so-called “Trump University.”

Less than a week after that acknowledgement, Trump’s charitable foundation, which is legally prohibited from donating to political campaigns, cut a $25,000 check for a group supporting Bondi’s campaign. (The foundation later paid a fine to the IRS for the illegal donation.)

In October 2013, Bondi’s office reversed course and said it was no longer pursuing allegations against “Trump University.”

Six years later, Bondi has joined Trump’s legal team, and by some measures, she’s already gone to work. Just this morning, the Florida Republican appeared on Fox News’ morning show and declared that presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner is “one of the smartest human beings” she’s ever met.

Perhaps Pam Bondi needs to meet more people?
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It's nice that Pam is working for Qatar, which paid a billion in extortion money to Jared Kushner at Number O' The Beast, 5th Avenue.
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