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The Trump trial in the Senate:

should allow witnesses and new evidence
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should allow witnesses, but no new evidence
- 0 (0%)
should not allow witnesses, but should allow new evidence
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should not allow either witnesses or new evidence
- 0 (0%)
should allow new witnesses and new evidence, but only if the GOP gets to call one or both Bidens
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closes: January 26, 2020, 12:25:44 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23595 on: November 17, 2019, 11:33:03 PM »

Kamala Harris has declared that she does not want the Democratic nomination for the presidency, but she is considering the GOP vice presidency.

http://sandrarose.com/2019/10/outrage-after-kamala-harris-says-black-males-wouldnt-get-shot-by-police-if-they-had-jobs/?fbclid=IwAR1bRWEL7vApZ-BDtxtqZCqSis8CJ-nHgVnZisMf0v2YT7RqLFeTIxeMRWs
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23596 on: November 18, 2019, 01:26:58 AM »

Still waiting for an explanation how the House impeachment hearings are a sham.  Thanks ...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23597 on: November 18, 2019, 01:35:43 AM »

Er, doesn't seem to be what Kamala meant at all.
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"Nothing stops a bullet like a job" was the motto of a program called "Jobs, Not Jail" that she was involved with years ago to help ex-gang members gain job skills. So it sounds like it was about violence between gang members, not police violence.
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« Reply #23598 on: November 18, 2019, 01:41:19 AM »

Er, doesn't seem to be what Kamala meant at all.
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"Nothing stops a bullet like a job" was the motto of a program called "Jobs, Not Jail" that she was involved with years ago to help ex-gang members gain job skills. So it sounds like it was about violence between gang members, not police violence.

It may not have been what she meant, Bo, but given the place she said it was an HBCU forum on justice, that how she said it did not include the context you are providing is problematic.
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« Reply #23599 on: November 18, 2019, 02:05:38 AM »

I didn't find the speech in question, after admittedly a rather cursory search.   But I assume Harris is aware that police sometimes shoot working folks in their homes for being black.

Anyway, I don't think Harris' campaign is going anywhere.  I find her interesting and smart and tough, but I don't think she's ready for this cycle.  But this is all good experience for her for down the road.  Being senator from CA affords rather good job security, and she can continue to build her profile and hone her political skills, and could be a force in 4 or hopefully 8 years.

Possibly if Biden dropped out, Harris (or Booker) could have surged with black support.  I think that was/has become Kamala's only chance this run.  Blacks don't seem terribly enamored with Warren, Sanders, or Mayor Pete. 

Doesn't seem that Harris' campaign has been been well run.  Strategy seems unclear, and when she got momentum, she couldn't capitalize.

Harris is likely to make some Veep short lists.
Especially paired with a white male.
But would be interesting as hell if Liz tabbed Kamala.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23600 on: November 18, 2019, 02:11:51 AM »

If this becomes a mini-brouhaha, Harris should tout the jobs for gang members program, help them do fundraising and get publicity, discuss her past role with that.  And talk about how job opportunities can help at risk youth get ahead and stay out of jail and the morgue.  Though you wouldn't know it form most media reporting, black people are in favor of jobs and less crime in their neighborhoods.

In other words, Kamala can turn this into an issue that both blacks and whites can support, and tout her early advocacy of such.  Turn it into a positive.  And don't just make it all about her, but tout the specific program.  Maybe advocate seeding such programs nationwide.  Be bold.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23601 on: November 18, 2019, 02:12:27 AM »

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« Reply #23602 on: November 18, 2019, 02:14:33 AM »

If this becomes a mini-brouhaha, Harris should tout the jobs for gang members program, help them do fundraising and get publicity, discuss her past role with that.  And talk about how job opportunities can help at risk youth get ahead and stay out of jail and the morgue.  Though you wouldn't know it form most media reporting, black people are in favor of jobs and less crime in their neighborhoods.

In other words, Kamala can turn this into an issue that both blacks and whites can support, and tout her early advocacy of such.  Turn it into a positive.  And don't just make it all about her, but tout the specific program.  Maybe advocate seeding such programs nationwide.  Be bold.

I've seen no sign that she can turn it around, even though I grant freely that it could be.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23604 on: November 18, 2019, 03:37:29 AM »

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/16/stephen-miller-white-supremacy-republican-party

No, they aren't racist - we know because Ward will tell us so, again, asking us to ignore the evidence and claiming there was none. And Kid will suggest we need to give it a rest.

Why would those racists lie or mislead us?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23605 on: November 18, 2019, 05:24:14 AM »

Grandpa Joe living in the 80's:
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Should legalize (and regulate) all drugs.
"Gateway drug" problem solved ...

I presume Biden still believes in Drug Prohibition and the War on Users.
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« Reply #23606 on: November 18, 2019, 07:52:34 AM »

Er, doesn't seem to be what Kamala meant at all.
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"Nothing stops a bullet like a job" was the motto of a program called "Jobs, Not Jail" that she was involved with years ago to help ex-gang members gain job skills. So it sounds like it was about violence between gang members, not police violence.

It may not have been what she meant, Bo, but given the place she said it was an HBCU forum on justice, that how she said it did not include the context you are providing is problematic.


Tempest in a teapot.


The HBCU forum was organized by an out side group trying to curry favor with Trump.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23607 on: November 18, 2019, 08:09:27 AM »

Looking forward to the rest of the book.  Most of this is really no big deal:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/anonymous-book-takeaways/index.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23608 on: November 18, 2019, 08:12:52 AM »

I didn't find the speech in question, after admittedly a rather cursory search.  But I assume Harris is aware that police sometimes shoot working folks in their homes for being black.


White folks too
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23609 on: November 18, 2019, 09:20:05 AM »

Looking forward to the rest of the book.  Most of this is really no big deal:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/anonymous-book-takeaways/index.html

Probably not nearly as big a deal as it would be if the Trump staffer that wrote it was truly more concerned about the country than their own career.  But you have some low expectations for the "president" you worship if you think the fact that his staff plotted his removal, ignores his orders when they are too wacky, and thinks he is in Putin's pocket is "really no big deal." 

The portrait is of a man who is in way over his head, is temperamentally unsuitable for the job, and is prioritizing the interests of our nation's enemies over those of the people who elected him.  Yet kiidcarter8 shrugs.  How our nation's highest office has fallen. 

It occurs to me with the term "Nevertrumper" in the news yesterday and today that it really is a measure of how perverse our politics are right now that people who use it derogatorily are getting away with it, as if never wanting the con man Donald Trump to be President of the United States somehow speaks ill about that person's judgement?

"There is no evidence that ____ is a NeverTrumper" - CNN.  Having a brain should be evidence of being a NeverTrumper.
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