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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

They can't even lie consistently.

Trump and White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham initially billed Trump's visit as the first part of the President's annual physical. But two days later, the President's doctor described the hospital visit as an "interim checkup," a term physicians told CNN implies a separate visit that is not part of an annual physical.

In a bid to quell concerns and speculation surrounding the visit, the White House released a memo from Dr. Sean Conley, the President's physician, describing the visit as "a routine, planned interim checkup as part of the regular, primary preventative care he receives throughout the year."

Despite speculation otherwise, he said Trump "has not had any chest pain, nor was he evaluated or treated for any urgent or acute issues."

[josh]

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/11/19/former-texas-house-speaker-joe-straus-defends-lgbtq-americans-op-ed/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1574177521&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0a2zx4bLYjm5vIf6zAk-6FNQmIs6UTvMGtAXPBGObpPf6MhweWDpTIuGo

Former Texas House Speaker Joe Straus calls on Supreme Court to protect workplace rights for LGBTQ Americans
Straus' op-ed comes a month after the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments for three employment discrimination cases in which a person was fired for being gay or transgender.

"As a lifelong Republican, I believe all Americans should have the opportunity to work and the freedom to go about their daily lives without the fear of discrimination," Straus wrote in an op-ed for Newsweek. “Some of the most prominent Republican-appointed federal judges in the country have already recognized that existing federal civil rights laws extend to gay and transgender Americans."

The Supreme Court should do the same, he wrote.

Progress is slow, but it does keep chugging along most of the time, even if some of the so-called conservatives don't like it.

[bodiddley]

Sure it was inappropriate for Biden's son to be on the board of a major energy company in Ukraine while his father was Veep. 

But it's also really questionable to have Rudy running around the planet cooking up deals, while he's Trump's personal lawyer.

And questionable for Rudy's 31 year old son to have a cushy job in the White House, mostly arranging sports teams to visit.
Apparently Trump likes to golf with the kid.

Of course this is the Nepotism Presidency, with Jared in charge of everything, Ivana a top adviser.  If they checked, Baron's probably on the gov't payroll pulling down 6 figures ...

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Fake news called out in real rime at hearings.

heh

Sez the self-admitted troll, while providing no actual information about his claim.

Zzzzzzzzzz

Sorry - I thought you were watching

Ohio representative read from his phone to Volker - something that had just come out in the press

"You didnt say that, did you?"

"No", came the answer.

I am sure only Fox might rerun the clip

Because it was so consequential otherwise. 

Whatever small victories you can get right?  As there was a time when Republican's defense of Trump rested on Volker's denying there was an explicit extortion attempt, and that defense did not emerge yesterday.  Just the opposite. 

Democrats did go easy on him, considering how much of his story was hard to believe, but he is seen largely as a neutral actor aware of but trying to stay out of Trump and Giuliani's schemes.  The fireworks come today.

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Who's a liar?

Volker, probably:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/19/this-answer-kurt-volker-makes-very-little-sense/

But he took back enough from his previous testimony that Democrats didn't press him harder on it.

[kiidcarter8]

The insinuation is that Republicans painted the witnesses (prior to Volker and Morrison) as liars.

Not true.  They were treated with respect at the hearings.

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Questioning the loyalty of a decorated military officer who has served for over 20 years is not treating him with appropriate respect.   

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Exactly what I said would happen:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/it-doesnt-matter-house-republicans-embrace-quid-pro-quo

A House GOP aide described the change in messaging this way: “It has gone from: ‘There is no quid pro quo,’ to: ‘There’s a quid and a quo but not a pro,’ to 'Even if there was a quid pro quo, it’s not that bad, this is just how things are done — you can say it’s bad, but it’s not impeachable.”

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How is the top line takeaway on this that Sondland is throwing Rudy under the bus?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gordon-sondland-will-trash-rudy-giuliani-in-impeachment-hearing

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

Giuliani was working for Trump.  He has said as much himself.  This isn't throwing Rudy under the bus. Its pointing the finger at kiidcarter8's fucking "president."

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How is the top line takeaway on this that Sondland is throwing Rudy under the bus?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gordon-sondland-will-trash-rudy-giuliani-in-impeachment-hearing

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

Giuliani was working for Trump.  He has said as much himself.  This isn't throwing Rudy under the bus. Its pointing the finger at kiidcarter8's fucking "president."

And of course, Pompeo knew about this too:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/politics/sondland-pompeo-ukraine.html

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Exactly what I said would happen:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/it-doesnt-matter-house-republicans-embrace-quid-pro-quo

A House GOP aide described the change in messaging this way: “It has gone from: ‘There is no quid pro quo,’ to: ‘There’s a quid and a quo but not a pro,’ to 'Even if there was a quid pro quo, it’s not that bad, this is just how things are done — you can say it’s bad, but it’s not impeachable.”

By the way, "The President has this power so its legal" defense is totally wrong.  This is why we have Congressional oversight.  The President is granted powers, but he can abuse them in ways that are 100% illegal.

For example, the President has the power to grant ambassadorships.  If he says "Give me $2 million and I'll give you the ambassadorship" that's Bribery, and exactly the kind of thing the impeachment power is meant to address.

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And while we are all focused on Trump's criminality in one arena today, lets not forget how he sold US foreign policy in Syria to Turkey, and what that means for our national security:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/politics/pentagon-report-syria-turkey-ceasefire/index.html

kiidcarter8's "president" has been a national disaster.

[Yankguy1]

Wow.  It's amazing how dumb Devin Nunes is.   

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A measure of how powerful Sondland's testimony has been already, before the questions even start:

Republicans would look fucking ridiculous right now if they keep saying "but we need to talk to the whistleblower."

[kiidcarter8]

Questioning the loyalty of a decorated military officer who has served for over 20 years is not treating him with appropriate respect.

Specifically...?

I mean - the guy was questioned for hours.  If you want to point to an instance where there seemed to be some disrespect, fine - but this was not the overall air from the Republicans.