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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Moving from Jersey to Tampa I will have to go through a 14 day quarantine. Does not seem fair?

Why wouldn't it be fair?

[josh]

This is a promising approach and I'm glad that the FDA is permitting it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fda-will-allow-doctors-treat-critically-ill-coronavirus-patients-blood-n1167831

[josh]

Staying at home works.

Note the rest of California.

Then consider who's ignoring the dictum or wants to get rid of it. Liberty University has reopened its physical campus and welcomed its students back. Pity Lynchburg.

[facilitatorn]

Moving from Jersey to Tampa I will have to go through a 14 day quarantine. Does not seem fair?

Give time for almost half of the state’s super spreaders to be immobilized because they are intubated or because ventilators will no longer do them any good.

[bodiddley]

I am sure he and his family are happy he can have the drug NOW.

Your comments are just ill-informed.
No one wants to deny someone in critical care an experimental drug.  Actually this fight was fought and won during the AIDS crisis, and the CDC has long  codified such a compassionate use exception.

The issue is you don't just give an experimental drug widely to the general population who are sick.  Because it might not work, might cause unknown side effects, hard to set or know the proper dosage, etc.

You can't ad hoc your way through an epidemic.
For critical cases, provide whatever drugs doctors think might help.  But you run trials with controls on prospective drugs to find out scientifically which provide benefits and which don't, dosage levels, beneficial drug combinations, side effects.  Sorry this actually takes some time, but it's the only way to actually benefit large numbers of ill people and not just drive up many blind alleys and waste more time.

I saw an article that 75 drugs approved for other uses were being tested on coronavirus and its attendant pneumonia.  That's a lot of candidate drugs.  Hopefully some can actually help.  Most won't though.

[bodiddley]

I do think the "2 years" comment by Trump is true - that some medical people would have us home bound for that long.

It took 2 months in China.  Mostly business as usual now, with everyone still taking precautions -- wearing masks, temp checks to enter buildings, some degree of social distancing/awareness/crowd avoidance.  Large gatherings still banned.

Even hard-hit Hubei Province has just had its lockdown lifted.  I don't recall when their mandatory movement restrictions started, but I think they were under strict lockdown for maybe 10 weeks.

If you do it thoroughly and effectively, a two month national quarantine can do the trick.  Of course it helps if people comply, take it seriously, and you people finally get some goddamn face masks.

Meantime....
HOPE IS A DRUG

Meantime, there's still no known cure for soft-headedness.

[josh]

Meantime, there's still no known cure for soft-headedness.

Death.

The death of the soft-headed cures it for the rest of us.

Folks had coronavirus parties?! WTF?

And shockingly enough, one of them tested positive. At least he wasn't hanging out with the congressmen and women between being tested and being positive.

[facilitatorn]

http://mobile.twitter.com/chrislongview/status/1242625324568973314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1242625324568973314&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2020%2F3%2F25%2F1930979%2F-Despite-Trump-s-claims-the-US-COVID-19-case-rate-is-rising

A truly unique occupant of the White House.

[kiidcarter8]

Moving from Jersey to Tampa I will have to go through a 14 day quarantine. Does not seem fair?

Fair/unfair how?

Isn't smart the real question.

[kiidcarter8]

We HAVE a BILL.

Now - on to the bragging......

(good Lord)

- Thanks to all of Congress for whatever role you played -

[kiidcarter8]

The issue is you don't just give an experimental drug widely to the general population who are sick.  Because it might not work, might cause unknown side effects, hard to set or know the proper dosage, etc.


Current thinking is that chloroquine given in 5-7 day stretches will exhibit no negative consequence.  Thus doctors ARE prescribing it (and the government is not involved in such decision)

Good interview yesterday described it as positive in risk/reward - and in times like these time itself is of course an issue.  And questioned why anyone would quibble.  This doesnt mean to NOT continue the trial and gather the data as well.

[kiidcarter8]

https://news.yahoo.com/hawley-stefanik-introduce-bill-investigate-150928064.html



Reports have detailed how Wuhan laboratories in December discovered that coronavirus was related to the deadly SARS virus which broke out in 2002-2003, but were subsequently gagged by government authorities, who ordered them to turn over or destroy evidence.

[Yankguy1]

It's very important that such an investigation be done now.

[kiidcarter8]

ELISE is on it.  I think she can multitask.

[kiidcarter8]

More good news -

could be that this virus will need just a one-time vaccine since it does not seem to be mutating at such a high rate.  First doses of trial vaccine have been given - second dose in 28 days