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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

As far as I can tell the unmasking of Flynn resulted in an illegal leak to the Washington Post of the Kisylak contact.

As far as I can tell you have your head up your ass.  Republicans have no idea if anyone informed of the "unmasking" leaked the info to the Washington Post. 

Somebody did. Several of the unmaskers names are redacted.

There were far from the only people who knew.  But that doesn't stop Republicans from publicizing formerly classified info to cast unfounded aspersions. 

Aspersions? How about logical questions like how come so many Obama officials with no ties to the intelligence community became so interested in who was talking to Michael Flynn? 

But nothing in that meeting raised any
Illegal conversations to the FBI or the Justice Department. So Comey et al had to improvise.

Right.  A totally above board secret call to Russia about sanctions that Flynn repeatedly lied to the FBI and the Vice President about (according to the Vice President) and won't say if it was ordered by Trump...nothing to see here folks!

A fantasy of yours, not any evidence to support it.

Strange then that the Trump Admin won't release the transcripts despite a Judge's orders to do so...

Transcripts of what?

The idea that Obama warned Trump Flynn was “ compromised” is ridiculous. There is yet NO evidence ( after 3 years) that anyone in the Obama Administration found any “ Collusion”. There was no “ fully predicated” investigation. What there was was Spying by the Obama gang to try an overturn an election.


It has been explained to you repeatedly....Flynn was publicly lying about a conversation Russians likely had on tape. 

No he wasn’t. The FBI was the one with the tape which proved to them Flynn was NOTt lying.

He was compromised.  Before even getting into his admitted attempts to facilitate Campaign-Russia collusion, or his undeclared ties to Turkey.

He had zero business having a security clearance.  When that became known, Trump fired him.  Now that Trump needs to paint Flynn as a victim of a politically motivated plot, he is lying about why he fired him.

Maybe you should write a spy novel.  You know, fiction.
LOL!

[josh]

The lying scumbag of a president we have is trying again to undermine science/medicine/public officials:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/trump-fauci-coronavirus-deaths/index.html

He claims that maybe the COVID-19 deaths are being overcounted when everything we know tells us that they are being undercounted.

And he does that as part of his 'competition' with Dr. Fauci over how ready we are to come out of lockdown and to downplay the severity of things.

[josh]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/study-treats-sickest-covid-patients-with-multiple-myeloma-drug/2124070/

[bodiddley]

This seems a classic attempt to muddy the waters and distract.

Simply, Flynn lied to the Veep, and Russia would have know that.  Then lied to FBI and Trump fired the lair.
Trump lied to the America people about having no business in Russia, when he was negotiating a mega-project to build the tallest building in the country.
And on the day Trump publicly called on Russian hackers to hack Clinton's emails, they hacked her campaign.
You can add in Don Jr and Kushner meeting at Trump Tower to get dirt form the Russians on their Dem opponent.

BUT the real scandal is the ongoing epidemic and the catastrophic failures of the Trump Admin leading to nearly 100K dead Americans.  That of course is what the Trumpeters are trying to distract from.

[josh]

I was thinking more about the McConnell claim that Obama had left them with nothing (which is totally bogus) to handle a pandemic and then the anonymous NSC member's claim that the document (which I linked here previously) was "quite dated."

Let's say, for the sake of the discussion, that McConnell had been right. There we were, in January 2020, three years into the Trump administration. Several exercises and reports had exposed the weaknesses of this country's preparedness for a pandemic. Did the Trump administration develop their own playbook for dealing with one?!

No!

If, instead, we listen to the anonymous NSC member's complaint, was the playbook "quite dated" in January of 2017, less than a year after it was written? Seems unlikely, huh?!

And if it was dated or became[/] dated, then whose job was it to update the thing?!

Oh, wait - it was THE NSC's!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/fact-check-mcconnell-obama-trump-game-plan/index.html

And the ostensibly "quite dated" document, itself, again:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2swJkEHugU1Zp-CvBlvqnaKfPa3yFxiTv_b94Ktu9POqe72n376NcTyzo

[NeedsAdjustments]

Aspersions? How about logical questions like how come so many Obama officials with no ties to the intelligence community became so interested in who was talking to Michael Flynn? 

You have it wrong.  The unmasking revealed Flynn's name, not who he was talking to.  As the call was recorded because of who was participating on the Russian side, Flynn's name was masked. 

And as my previous posting showed, the unmasking may not have been and probably wasn't related to that call.  Even if it was, "why would officials be interested in who it was who was undermining Obama Admin sanctions against Russia?" is not a credible question.  It should be obvious why they would be interested.

A fantasy of yours, not any evidence to support it.

No evidence? Its public record!  Spicer claimed that sanctions were not discussed on the call.  The VP claimed that Flynn told him that sanctions were not discussed in the call.  The VP then said he was lied to when it was revealed that sanctions were discussed on the call. 

Pure known facts.

Transcripts of what?

Transcripts of the call Flynn had with the Ambassador.  Transcripts that should now be released to the judge presiding over the case as the DOJ has made them material to their dropping the charges against him.

No he wasn’t. The FBI was the one with the tape which proved to them Flynn was NOTt lying.

LOL.  WTF?  Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian Ambassador.  Russia knew that.  Flynn then had the administration lie that he did not discuss sanctions with the Russian Ambassador (assuming Trump wasn't the one who told him to do that in the first place)  Therefore Russian had compromising info on Flynn.  Follow the bouncing ball, please.

Maybe you should write a spy novel.  You know, fiction.
LOL!

Everything I posted was facts on the public record.  Better inform yourself of what that record is.

[josh]

[josh]

Everything I posted was facts on the public record.  Better inform yourself of what that record is.

He doesn't care what the record is.

He's lying.

[josh]

https://oklahoman.com/article/5583890/deaf-man-paid-175000-in-taxpayer-funds-to-settle-claims-oklahoma-troopers-used-excessive-force-during-traffic-stop?fbclid=IwAR26BdlTTrwFQEJwUYsnKCjPFSYrcCupXhA1G_lj313tgdOxIZbao_kjIQ0

A [68-year old] deaf man has been paid $175,000 in taxpayer funds to settle claims Oklahoma Highway Patrol troopers used excessive force during a 2014 traffic stop.

Pearl Pearson, who also is mute, sued the Oklahoma Department of Public Safety in 2015 after suffering injuries to his head, face and upper body during the traffic stop.

The state agency reported the "force used against Pearson was reasonable," documents show.

After the incident, Pearson was charged in Oklahoma County District Court with resisting arrest. Prosecutors dismissed the misdemeanor case last year due to the expected high expense of hiring interpreters for trial, records show

[NeedsAdjustments]

REDSTATEWARD:  The deep state loyal to Obama had to have Flynn removed so that they could continue to have the FBI spy on his campaign and overturn the results of the election!

Also REDSTATEWARD: You should write spy novels you are so good at making up shit.

LOL.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Aspersions? How about logical questions like how come so many Obama officials with no ties to the intelligence community became so interested in who was talking to Michael Flynn? 

You have it wrong.  The unmasking revealed Flynn's name, not who he was talking to.  As the call was recorded because of who was participating on the Russian side, Flynn's name was masked.  And as my previous posting showed, the unmasking may not have been and probably wasn't related to that call.  Even if it was, "why would officials be interested in who it was who was undermining Obama Admin sanctions against Russia?" is not a credible question.  It should be obvious why they would be interested.

That statement made no sense.

A fantasy of yours, not any evidence to support it.


No evidence? Its public record!  Spicer claimed that sanctions were not discussed on the call.  The VP claimed that Flynn told him that sanctions were not discussed in the call.  The VP then said he was lied to when it was revealed that sanctions were discussed on the call. 

Pure known facts.

Flynn only lied about discussing sanctions. The FBI had the proof he did but found nothing illegal about what was said.

Transcripts of what?
 
Transcripts of the call Flynn had with the Ambassador.  Transcripts that should now be released to the judge presiding over the case as the DOJ has made them material to their dropping the charges against him.

No one is disputing the actual interview between the two.

No he wasn’t. The FBI was the one with the tape which proved to them Flynn was NOTt lying.

LOL.  WTF?  Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian Ambassador.  Russia knew that.  Flynn then had the administration lie that he did not discuss sanctions with the Russian Ambassador (assuming Trump wasn't the one who told him to do that in the first place)  Therefore Russian had compromising info on Flynn.  Follow the bouncing ball, please.

There is nothing bouncing. None of what Flynn and Kisylak discussed was illegal. That is why the FBI had to entrap Flynn.

Maybe you should write a spy novel.  You know, fiction.
LOL!

Everything I posted was facts on the public record.  Better inform yourself of what that record is.

You would be better off actually reading the record.

[REDSTATEWARD]

REDSTATEWARD:  The deep state loyal to Obama had to have Flynn removed so that they could continue to have the FBI spy on his campaign and overturn the results of the election!

Also REDSTATEWARD: You should write spy novels you are so good at making up shit.

LOL.

LOL!

[facilitatorn]

You are getting smacked around by everyone who has actually read the record.

Maybe you should try to learn to read.

Hooked on phonics is very affordable these days.

Or you could start with My Pet Goat.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Flynn only lied about discussing sanctions. The FBI had the proof he did but found nothing illegal about what was said.

Flynn was compromised because he lied and the Russians knew it.  Not because of the legality, or lack of, of the call.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Flynn only lied about discussing sanctions. The FBI had the proof he did but found nothing illegal about what was said.

Flynn was compromised because he lied and the Russians knew it.  Not because of the legality, or lack of, of the call.

You can’t possibly be serious.
There is not one shred of evidence to back up your fiction.