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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Projections - 9 of them - for where the US death count from the virus is going to go over the next few weeks. They don't all go the same length of time.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/?ex_cid=rrpromo

IHME, which used to consistently underestimate is overestimating by a couple thousand as of Saturday's eod total.

Everybody else's average is low, with 3 of them having an upper end that may yet be low, not just their average. We'll be closer to 106k deceased than 105k, and maybe over it. If the last couple Saturdays are a guide, we'll be just below.

The lowest average for a month from yesterday is 120k. Predicting 17k dead in the next 30 days is pretty bold and I think their model is just wrong about that. It's range is 111-134,000. Still, that would be averaging below 600 per day and we've seen a figure below 600. Maybe two.

The highest average is IHME, though they get passed a week later. IHME thinks 132k as does the Youyang Gu model, but IHME's has a far bigger range: 113-173k vs. 114-161k.

UTexas has a far tighter model that ends a week earlier - 122-125k, with an average of 124,000 on June 20. Their average is almost exactly the average of the top and bottom models.

[josh]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

The king of non-sequiturs.

I talked about you. I said nothing about the article.

[REDSTATEWARD]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

The king of non-sequiturs.

I talked about you. I said nothing about the article.

I didn’t write the article.

[REDSTATEWARD]

A Wednesday report by Campus Reform outlines a movement of multiple college democrat organizations that are opposing Joe Biden as the Democratic Party’s nominee due to the sexual assault allegations leveled against him by Tara Reade. According to the report, Democrat student groups are “finding it impossible” to overlook Reade’s claims.

“I find it both rich and sad that prominent liberals (the bane of a socialists existence) have recanted and vanished from the #MeToo movement,” Young Democrats wrote in a statement. “Alyssa Milano removed it from her bio, as if she could make more clear that she was always just a careerist grifter.”

The group also noted the Biden’s press secretary, Symone Sanders, deleted her old tweets that were supportive of Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey-Ford, which it likened to an “almost Stalinist rewriting of history” to support Biden.

“To beat Donald Trump, we need to have the best nominee possible. If Joe Biden is ultimately cleared by a non-partisan investigation, we would throw all our efforts behind him.”

Hmmm
Are democrats having second thoughts about Joe?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquisitr.com/6079447/college-democrat-groups-biden-sexual-assault-allegations/amp/

[LarryBnDC]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.


Derecka Purnell writing for the Guardian, May 22:


The Democratic party holds black people in an abusive relationship but says you cannot leave because the other option is more abusive. That’s why I don’t believe that a vote against Biden solely means a vote for Trump. Perhaps it is a vote against being captured by the party that makes empty promises every four years when it is election time, and delivers nothing. . . . Perhaps it is a vote against covert and overt racism.
Biden and others will rightfully argue that Trump is worse, and I agree. But what can Biden actually deliver? Will there be fewer drones if he’s president? Maybe not. Fewer deportations? Maybe not. Less money to police departments? No. Will fewer black people die from police? Unlikely. Will black people have healthcare? Unlikely. Will black wealth increase? Unlikely. Will Palestinian lives be safer? Unlikely. Commitments to preserving our climate? Doubtful. If black people have a hard time figuring out the differences between Trump and Biden, then that is Biden’s problem, not ours.
Joe Biden refuses to reckon with the harm that he has caused to people all over the world. His best line is that he is better than the other guy, and that is exactly how abusive relationships function. Black people—all people—deserve better than Biden and the Democratic party. And yes, we are still black.




https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/22/black-americans-joe-biden-democratic-party-relationship?mod=article_inline

100K dead and economic collapse. Yeah, let’s talk about black voters on the Democratic plantation.

Slap yourself and sit in the corner.

[bankshot1]

Red has always been a clear and strong voice in a silent desert demanding justice for his Black-American brothers and sisters. And he's been a full-thoated supporter of  feminist's battle against pervasive and corrosive sexism that invades our society, most recently in his condemnation of the masked man from Delaware's naked pursuit for power and a piece of ass.

Fight the good fight Red.

And ignore the 100,000 dead Americans and the 40 million Americans out of work due to an incompetent and corrupt boob in the White House.

Distract and divide

SSDD

[Hairy Lime]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

More likely, read it and understood its intent, especially in your hands.

[REDSTATEWARD]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.


Derecka Purnell writing for the Guardian, May 22:


The Democratic party holds black people in an abusive relationship but says you cannot leave because the other option is more abusive. That’s why I don’t believe that a vote against Biden solely means a vote for Trump. Perhaps it is a vote against being captured by the party that makes empty promises every four years when it is election time, and delivers nothing. . . . Perhaps it is a vote against covert and overt racism.
Biden and others will rightfully argue that Trump is worse, and I agree. But what can Biden actually deliver? Will there be fewer drones if he’s president? Maybe not. Fewer deportations? Maybe not. Less money to police departments? No. Will fewer black people die from police? Unlikely. Will black people have healthcare? Unlikely. Will black wealth increase? Unlikely. Will Palestinian lives be safer? Unlikely. Commitments to preserving our climate? Doubtful. If black people have a hard time figuring out the differences between Trump and Biden, then that is Biden’s problem, not ours.
Joe Biden refuses to reckon with the harm that he has caused to people all over the world. His best line is that he is better than the other guy, and that is exactly how abusive relationships function. Black people—all people—deserve better than Biden and the Democratic party. And yes, we are still black.




https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/22/black-americans-joe-biden-democratic-party-relationship?mod=article_inline

100K dead and economic collapse. Yeah, let’s talk about black voters on the Democratic plantation.

Slap yourself and sit in the corner.

That question should be directed to the Guardian and the author of the article who is black.

[REDSTATEWARD]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

More likely, read it and understood its intent, especially in your hands.

And you ignored it, too?

[josh]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

The king of non-sequiturs.

I talked about you. I said nothing about the article.

I didn’t write the article.

Figured that out on your own?

I reiterate for your benefit.

I made comments about you. I commented about your motivation for posting the article.

You "responded" with a comment that had zero to do with my response. Same as with your pretending yesterday not to understand what "disproportionate" meant.

You cannot or will not engage in meaningful discussion. You make Kid seem direct and Bambi seem sensible. They are neither.

[facilitatorn]

Red if the Republican Party wasn’t actively killing of or enslaving all the poor and all people of color, there might be an important point in that article.

Fortunately the great majority of the country understands that the entire point of this next election is to take the gun and the whip out of your hand, you sick demented fuck.

If that leaves us with Uncle Joe and Auntie Liz, there are worse outcomes.

The worst outcomes, as our present circumstances show us, are here now. They are a result of puppet trump and Moscow Mitch scamming their way into office. Sweeping out pieces of shit like that, basically anyone you like politically, is the primary and essential step to staunching the bleeding from all the critical wounds republicans with their Antichristian Religion of Pure Evil inflict on this land and its people each and every day.

[facilitatorn]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/28/trump-campaign-attempts-to-remove-satirical-cartoon-from-online-retailer?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

Not enough to stifle free speech, while claiming to be defending it, in the Twitter instance, now he is going after a retailer for selling a cartoon.

All class, this guy.

Can't wait to see Ward weigh in on it.

Trump really is a whiny little bitch.

[josh]

About those nursing homes and how Trump is innocent of it all...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rage-builds-as-feds-slow-walk-covid-nursing-home-cash

[josh]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/28/trump-retweets-video-saying-only-good-democrat-is-dead-democrat/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR133Gs2qvdy1DTkuoeVLJNFkoidaXjqNW_V38jj6hOWSp3Mu3gOAu3zCTY

Tell me again how Trump is not inciting violence.

Go ahead.

I dare you.

[REDSTATEWARD]

About the black voters and Joe Biden.
...

Like you care about Black people.

You want to win the election. Period, end of story.

I guess you didn’t read the article, then.

The king of non-sequiturs.

I talked about you. I said nothing about the article.

I didn’t write the article.

Figured that out on your own?

I reiterate for your benefit.

I made comments about you. I commented about your motivation for posting the article.

You "responded" with a comment that had zero to do with my response. Same as with your pretending yesterday not to understand what "disproportionate" meant.

You cannot or will not engage in meaningful discussion. You make Kid seem direct and Bambi seem sensible. They are neither.

This is a discussion forum.