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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40785 on: June 30, 2020, 10:15:16 PM »

As the defunding vote in NY approaches...


"First dispirit them - then tell them they are doing a bad job - and then what you do is  .. with the Occupy movement that you asked to go there - across the street from City Hall - tell them you are cutting a billion dollars out of the budget - and oh yeah - instead of saying we are in austere times, in the middle of the corona virus - and we have to cut the budget and it npains me to do so - I am taking it and putting it toward generic youth programs.  There is a Police Athletic League already, but I dont want to digress.  Generic youth programs.  Are they dramatically underfunded?  Is this addressing something - or is this an idea or an ideal that you are implementing now - which puts the NY citizen on the sideline?
Now - let me tell you what (DeBlazio) is doing.  He is cutting one thousand one hundred and sixty three police officers from the next academy class that is coming in.  So imagine this - even though all this stuff is going on NEGATIVE with the NYPD, they've got this great history that says "I'm gonna go in there anyway" - and for forty thousand dollars...when you take out taxes you take about twenty three thousand dollars home - you commute to the most expensive city in the country - you won't wear your uniform because you are afraid of being targeted = and you will go and you will TRAIN and you will DIRECT TRAFFIC and you will try to rebuild this city ina  very tense time.  But then you get a call that you are NO LONGER going to be in the Academy.  Because they are looking to save money
They are also diverting money from school safety, where the police department was handling it - andf putting it in the hands of the Department of Education.  So now SCHOOL SAFETY GOES ON THE BACK BURNER. Schools can handle it themselves.   UNBELIEVABLE series of events!


-   Brian Kilmeade


Fuck Brian Kilmeade

Scared Crooked
By Larry Bellinger
This spring a group of "troubled" children from Washington, D.C.'s Evans Middle School were taken on a visit to the D.C. Jail. The school's director of in-service suspension, who arranged the jail visit, said, "I wanted some of the kids to experience the jail-you know, the clink-clink, the bars." The visiting students-some as young as 13-were intimidated by guards, strip-searched, forced to undergo a body-cavity search, and left in the presence of a masturbating inmate-all so they would be "scared straight."

The Scared Straight program-founded in 1976 at New Jersey's Rahway State Prison-remains one of the most popular "intervention" methods for dealing with troubled teens. But does it work?

A 1979 documentary on the program, which depicted tough teens being reduced to quivering masses by big, scary inmates, won an Academy Award and two Emmys. The producers of the show claimed an 80 to 90 percent success rate, and the race to bring Scared Straight to a city near you was on. Legislators around the country couldn't wait to implement such programs to eradicate the scourge of juvenile delinquency. The concept continues to thrive around the country.

But many studies have belied the success claims of Scared Straight. "Youths attending the programs consistently did worse than those who did not," wrote James O. Finckenauer in his 1999 book Scared Straight: The Panacea Phenomenon Revisited. He's not alone in this assessment. According to Youth Violence: A Report of the Surgeon General released earlier this year, successful prevention programs "target specific populations of young people as defined by risk and life experience, build individual skills and competencies, include parent effectiveness training, and encourage changes in type and level of involvement in peer groups." Not exactly a description of the Scared Straight approach.

The surgeon general's report highlights 27 specific youth violence prevention programs that are effective at preventing youth violence and cost-effective as well. Scared Straight is identified in the report as "consistently ineffective" and is placed in the category "Does Not Work." In fact, studies cited in the report conclude that the program further "hardens troubled children and increases their involvement in crime and violence."

So why keep going with a method that has been found to be ineffective at best and harmful at worst? There is an increasing tendency in our society to criminalize children, to charge and try children as adults. The Scared Straight and boot camp-type programs seem to be preparing children for the prison industrial complex. And children know it, especially those in inner-city public schools.

Many young people-especially black males-start out with the heavy yoke of negative stereotypes. "By middle school they are labeled as special education, learning disabled, angry, etc.," says Una-Kariim Cross of LISTEN, Inc., a youth leadership-development organization, "and with the teacher-to-student ratio being what it is, they become marginalized."

"There are serious long-term effects of being labeled a Troublemaker that substantially increases one's chances of ending up in jail," explains Ann A. Ferguson in Bad Boys: Public Schools in the Making of Black Masculinity. "Time in the school dungeon means time lost from classroom learning; suspension, at school or at home, has a direct and lasting negative effect on the continuing growth of a child." Many of these black boys-either consciously or subconsciously-view school as a component of the "prison conditioning process."

In New York City the politicians have hastened the process. For the last three years the police department has been in control of security in the public schools. Considering NYPD's well-documented tactics of harassment and abuse against people of color, many feel that the schools have become conditioning centers for incarceration, including lock-downs, stop and frisks, and holding cells. One student told the Village Voice, "The [police] are like recruiters around here, only they don't want us for the NBA or the NFL. They want us for jail."


In the 25 years since Scared Straight was born, more than 1,000 prisons and jails have been built in the United States, yet the prisons are more crowded than ever. It's obvious that scaring kids straight isn't working. If we want real results, perhaps we ought to try loving them straight instead.

Larry Bellinger is an assistant editor of Sojourners.



https://sojo.net/magazine/september-october-2001/scared-crooked


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40786 on: June 30, 2020, 10:15:38 PM »

"The uneducated are showing up in droves - and unfortunately are given microphones..."

-   Tim Scott

That's a helluva way to describe your supporters, Senator.


heh

Recommend that you see both sides - maybe take an interest in a segment once in a while as it is provided for you.

Kid you posted a naked quote, so I spun it in a way that made perfect sense.

You want me to consider your intended meaning, then post a link and give me some context from which to consider the "other side"

And the real fear for Repubs is not the masses holding a microphone, pitchfork or AR-15, but holding fair elections.

VOTE BABY VOTE

The full quote is here: https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/30/tim-scott-protester-police-uneducated/

Watch the video.

This took me a minute to find.

Depersonalize. Debate. Respectfully.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40787 on: June 30, 2020, 10:17:05 PM »

One thing I learned in my dealings with public health (doing social work in group homes) is how substandard housing can impact respiratory health.  Poor housing can give you asthma, in several ways.    And also,  living within 150 feet of an arterial (where cheaper housing is often found) has an impact on CV health.  We have a long ways to go on these issues.   




uhhhhh...

I don't think so

How the fuck would you know?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40788 on: June 30, 2020, 10:27:05 PM »

I guess kid has his mask on and didn't see my post.

Somebody tell him its just supposed to cover his nose and mouth.

mask-rookies, whaddya gonna do?

Emersing his head entirely in donald trump’s ample keister is how Kiid is trying to keep himself safe these days.

I don’t know if he’s safe, but he’s definitely given his head a lot of insulation. Uncomfortable facts never reach him in there & it usually smells like twice processed fast food. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40789 on: June 30, 2020, 10:28:54 PM »

43 years ago Rick Monday saved an American Flag.
If only our pampered athletes of today(and alleged mayors and governors) Had the same set of balls.
Or any.


https://www.facebook.com/94471021099/posts/10158235311016100/?vh=e&d=n


Jingo boy is feeling his magic powers slip away. Shame.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40790 on: June 30, 2020, 10:46:15 PM »

Think Tim Scott gets upset with these folks? Think he questions their education?

https://news.yahoo.com/pro-trump-retirement-community-villages-072643601.html
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« Reply #40791 on: June 30, 2020, 10:48:36 PM »

"The uneducated are showing up in droves - and unfortunately are given microphones..."

-   Tim Scott

That's a helluva way to describe your supporters, Senator.


heh

Recommend that you see both sides - maybe take an interest in a segment once in a while as it is provided for you.

Kid you posted a naked quote, so I spun it in a way that made perfect sense.

You want me to consider your intended meaning, then post a link and give me some context from which to consider the "other side"

And the real fear for Repubs is not the masses holding a microphone, pitchfork or AR-15, but holding fair elections.

VOTE BABY VOTE

The full quote is here: https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/30/tim-scott-protester-police-uneducated/

Watch the video.

This took me a minute to find.

Depersonalize. Debate. Respectfully.

Tim Scott is using the language and argument of an apologist and shill for a white supremacist regime. He appears somewhat normalized in this in the clip imbedded in the linked article by appearing on a white supremacist network with a whites supremacist hostess. They can both chuckle along. Pretend he doesn’t hear the complaints of those he has sworn to serve is one way, one very republican way, of avoiding the responsibilities of doing his job while continuing to cash his paychecks.

Tim Scott is a very unfortunate Senator. He’ll probably stick around as part of the 36-37 seat rump minority that the republican caucus dwindles to in its inexorable trajectory towards complete irrelevance.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40792 on: June 30, 2020, 11:03:53 PM »

That “Summer of Love “ is not working out so well for democrat Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan.

Her political war with Seattle City Council member Kshama Sawant ( a socialist) rose ( or fell) to a new level with a call for the Seattle City Council and council President Lorena Gonzalez to investigate end expel its longest-serving member.[
“The City Council may choose to ignore and dismiss her actions, but I think that undermines public confidence in our institutions,” Durkan writes. “This letter requests that the Council exercise its Charter duties and fully investigate Councilmember Kshama Sawant and determine if action should be taken…”
The letter from Durkan’s office levels five allegations against Sawant including “using her official position to lead a march” to the mayor’s home Sunday night, Durkan says, “despite the fact that it was publicly known I was not there, and she and organizers knew that my address was protected under the state confidentiality program because of threats against me due largely to my work as U.S. Attorney.”
“All of us have joined hundreds of demonstrations across the City, but Councilmember Sawant and her followers chose to do so with reckless disregard of the safety of my family and children,” Durkan writes.


Hmm.

It is the cowardly Durkan who failed to stop the thugs from establishing war zones in downtown Seattle.

A curse on both their houses.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40793 on: June 30, 2020, 11:13:13 PM »

That “Summer of Love “ is not working out so well for democrat Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan.

Afghanistan and Russia.

Where are the Benghazi-like hearings in the Senate?

Where is the outrage from the Law-and-Order GOP members?

You want to talk about anything but that or COVID-19.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

(LOL says Ward.)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40794 on: June 30, 2020, 11:19:42 PM »

Re Scott

In the video provided a single young woman engages 5 policemen in a very brief and somewhat heated debate, presumably about race.

Scott takes this brief encounter, again one young woman confronting 5 cops, and generalizes about the "droves of uneducated" voicing their complaints.

I don't think he  was paying attention to the facts as portrayed in the video.

Again protest is legal, and protest by its nature is not required to be polite or quiet.

it is by its nature supposed to be a little disruptive. If it wasn't no one would pay attention to it. 

The young woman was well within bounds of exercising her free-speech.

What did strike me was in the midst of a pandemic, none of the 5 poilice officers wore masks and were not practicing social distancing as the young woman did.

If I were to generalize about the behavior of what I saw, I would probably conclude the police officers actions were dangerous, driven by an a lack of education or understanding the risks that they were engaged in.

Perhaps I might conclude from that video, the police force has attracted the uneducated, in droves.

Probably not, but there's more evidence to draw that conclsusion than the Fox-fed pablum that Scott spit out.

Going back to my original response Scott protesteth a little too much as he might consider that if denied the right to air their grievances, rather than a microphone, the uneducated masses he holds in contempt, might be holding pitchforks or AR-15s 

But fortunately they will be holding ballots and mailing them in to cleanse our politcal sysyem of the filth left by the Republican party.


 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40795 on: June 30, 2020, 11:21:17 PM »

https://www.koco.com/app/oklahoma-election-results-state-question-802-medicaid-expansion/32972811

Oklahoma seems pretty close to becoming the next GOP state to embrace Medicaid Expansion (a part of Obamacare).
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« Reply #40797 on: July 01, 2020, 12:16:23 AM »

A curse on both their houses.


That’s quite a lot of cursing from your pup tent by the highway on ramp.

I blame your utter misunderstanding of the issues involved on your extreme poverty, terrible diet, and third world education.

Maybe a wealth tax properly allocated can provide you resources to improve your situation and condition so you can make less of a complete ass of yourself when you choose to spout off in public.

It’s sad how the trump administration is leaving you behind. It’s sad even though you are a sticky sock puppet with no discernible soul. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40799 on: July 01, 2020, 12:42:34 AM »

https://www.moorenews.net/articles/4/5/6555/Susan-Collins-Says-She-Had-No-Idea-Brett-Kavanaugh-Was-So-Anti-Choice.html?fbclid=IwAR39kAfgnVPOTpQT0810PCzT-iLRjybcXEzmMPgBsPQ72AHfEvem05r3L3c
Irrelevant and immaterial to the Louisiana decision.
But, then, you should know that.

You spew the company line just fine.

It has everything to do with Roe v Wade and absolutely nothing to do with women's health or safety.

But, then, you know that just like all 4 of those who voted against do.
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