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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hamilton Samuels]

Great piece by exmilitary on Trump:

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/donald-trump-revolution-uprising-election-2020-20200623.html

[Echo4]

Even Trump supports mask wearing.

“I wore one in this back area, but I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it,” Trump said when asked by reporters.

“I just don’t want to wear one myself,” Trump said in early April when asked if he’d wear a mask. “It’s a recommendation; they recommend it. I’m feeling good. I just don’t want to be doing — I don’t know, somehow sitting in the Oval Office … I think wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, I don’t know. Somehow, I don’t see it for myself. I just — I just don’t.”

Within minutes of the CDC announcing its updated mask recommendations last month, the president said, “I don’t think that I’m going to be doing it.”

Trump has told advisers that he believes wearing one would “send the wrong message,” according to one administration and two campaign officials not authorized to publicly discuss private conversations.

Moreover, Trump, who is known to be especially cognizant of his appearance on television, has also told confidants that he fears he would look ridiculous in a mask and the image would appear in negative ads, according to one of the officials.

[Echo4]

Trump also further politicized masks by saying that many folks wear a masks just to show disapproval of him -- implying that his supporters should not wear masks to show their support.



At certain times - quite true

That he politicized it or that they did it to show disapproval?

If you mean the latter, you need better drugs.

[Echo4]

He also doesn't support social distancing.  Removing the stickers on the chairs in Tulsa was a clear signal.


It was actually just following the initial plan.  His hope was that they would all wear masks - which were being GIVEN to every attendee.

"Let's keep them away from each other because w know they wont distance" was never a thought - agreed.

You just keep spinning and spinning.

It's not that it was "the original plan." It is that Trump states explicitly that he did not want to see people spread out. It made him feel less popular.

[bambu.]

"On July the Fourth, we are going to shut Atlantic City down to show the light of systemic racism, and the issues economically and socially, and the oppression that happens right here in Atlantic City," Young said during the interview.

A protest and march through the city on May 31 began peacefully but deteriorated into rioting and looting.

Several businesses, especially in the area Tanger Outlets near Baltic Avenue, were damaged, so much so that some businesses have yet to reopen. The mayor said that although he does not feel the protests will reach the level of intensity that occurred in May, and that he’s in favor of peaceful protests, law enforcement agencies will be ready if the situation calls for their intervention.

“We cannot afford another embarrassment,” Small said. “This is the time for everyone to step up. We cannot have people coming in from out of town, destroying our businesses, destroying our properties, and destroy Atlantic City’s good name.”

Small also addressed reports that the Pagan’s Motorcycle Club was headed to the city Saturday.

“I learned some information that the Pagans motorcycle gang was supposed to come here and try to intervene. That is all fine and dandy. However, we are going to take care of our affairs here in the city of Atlantic City


The Pagans have been beefing up their membership in New Jersey, state officials said this past October during public hearings about outlaw motorcycle clubs.

The club has always been strong in South Jersey, but evidence shows they are growing in the north too. State law enforcement officials estimated then that they have 300 members in 17 chapters throughout the state - with a 50% increase in chapters over the past three years


https://www.nj.com/atlantic/2020/06/atlantic-city-trying-to-ward-off-george-floyd-protest-that-could-bring-pagans-bikers-to-town.html

Mayor has no idea.
He's calling for 'everyone to step up' but is in favour of peaceful protest marches closing down his city.
The last one he allowed turned into rioting and looting.

What the place needs is a mayor who has the word "NO" in his vocabulary.

"We are going to shut Atlantic city down".....

"NO, ...you are not...don't even think about it".

He needs to buy some water cannons.

[bambu.]

New York was the center of the virus, for various reasons.
The result has been that they got it under control.  The danger to NY now is infected people coming in from states that did not take those measures.

Close the borders and don''t let anyone in.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/07/01/on-the-phone-with-foreign-leaders-trump-is-delusional-and-uninformed-whod-a-thunk-it/

Kiid with a nuclear football.

[facilitatorn]

New York was the center of the virus, for various reasons.
The result has been that they got it under control.  The danger to NY now is infected people coming in from states that did not take those measures.

Close the borders and don''t let anyone in.

Maybe some sort of reserve or prolonged internment for virus deniers? We could start with the “open” protest Facebook members.

[Echo4]

Some have followed guidelines perfectly - and still are having problems

Maybe the guidelines themselves need further perusal.

The Trump Administration's own task force came up with a staged reopening plan where each stage of reopening had gateways that opened only when certain measures on cases, testing and hospitalizations were met. 

As the statement you quoted said, states reopened despite not meeting those guidelines, and many did so under pressure from Trump.  That isn't arguable.

Sure it is.

Kid doesn't care about facts.

It's like his claim that the problem is folks in their 20s and 30s, not GOP members vs. Dems.

If he can deny that GOP members are less likely to wear masks, he can argue anything.

Like... "Trump supports wearing masks."

I agree, it ought not to be argued, but...

[Yankguy1]

Trump does NOTHING that is not genuine.  Nothing just to get elected.

This might be the most amusing thing ever posted here. 

[Echo4]

Or maybe this virus is just a PITA and will get around despite any restrictions, masks, what have you.....

New Zealand says hi.

So does Iceland.

So does Vietnam, which is not an island.

So does fucking EUROPE which had problems as big and bigger initially, but got them under control, overall.

[Echo4]

Elections are determined by events

And officials' responses to those events...

[bodiddley]

Trump does NOTHING that is not genuine.  Nothing just to get elected.  He speaks his mind, is confident he is the best man to see the US through this spell.

Your statements are as opposite of the truth as possible.

How bout that walk through the park and then holding a bible in a funny way in front of the church?  Just the first example that came to mind, but if that wasn't calculated phoniness to appeal to his base, then I'm a leprechaun.

Everything Trump does is to get reelected, to the extent that he doesn't give a shit about hardly anything else.  That was Bolton's main message and he was there.
Even Trump's talks with foreign leaders -- Ukraine and China the most notorious -- are about getting him reelected.

There is no way even Trump thinks he's the best man to deal with the Coronavirus.
He seems depressed.  We've never had a presidential suicide before.  And is Jared still alive?

[facilitatorn]

Shitheads who support trump and ignore masking and social distancing guidelines also ignore travel guidelines.

You do all the right things then trumpies show up because they can no longer stand to be in their own shithole houses or towns and you get a resurgence anyway.

Kiid is trying to kick up dust with his Covid blame shuffle because he knows he’d drown if he tried to defend trump’s support and endorsement of Putin buying murders of US soldiers in Afghanistan.

[facilitatorn]

Trump does NOTHING that is not genuine.  Nothing just to get elected.  He speaks his mind, is confident he is the best man to see the US through this spell.

Your statements are as opposite of the truth as possible.

How bout that walk through the park and then holding a bible in a funny way in front of the church?  Just the first example that came to mind, but if that wasn't calculated phoniness to appeal to his base, then I'm a leprechaun.

Everything Trump does is to get reelected, to the extent that he doesn't give a shit about hardly anything else.  That was Bolton's main message and he was there.
Even Trump's talks with foreign leaders -- Ukraine and China the most notorious -- are about getting him reelected.

There is no way even Trump thinks he's the best man to deal with the Coronavirus.
He seems depressed.  We've never had a presidential suicide before.  And is Jared still alive?

Jared is working with space force to find a planet with no extradition agreement and a favorable tax code for imperial scale looters.

I have been saying seppuku or barbecue for a while now.

If trump falls below 35% nationally before the nomination convention, it’s increasingly likely the GOP forces him out using his many derelictions endangering troops and undermining defense strategy on behalf of Russia as the wedge to lever his fat ass off the ticket if not out of office.