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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bodiddley]

It's a respiratory virus.  We know quite well how to limit transmission.
700 cases and 30+ deaths in Shanghai.  4 deaths in Hong Kon


Are you factoring in different strains of the virus?  Was Shanghai and Hong Kong hit the same as the US in that respect?  Dont get upset, just respond if you like.

Actually I was discussing this yesterday.  That the European G strain of CV-19 is apparently more infectious.  So maybe China got a bit lucky.  Then again the US had 6-8 weeks to prepare for the virus, while China had no lead time.

And even if this is a more dangerous strain in the US, the virus is still transmitted (and blocked) in the exact same manner.   Fact is China went to lockdowns and obligatory mask wearing and businesses shut down fairly rapidly with high compliance and then reopened gradually and cautiously.  While the US denied the benefits of masks, went mostly for limited lockdowns and half-measures, got overly attached to the 6 foot guideline, treated precautions as either/or instead of protection multipliers, and then started reopening too soon, without meeting the guidelines, and without ever having done a serious or even adequate  job of limiting transmission. 

Different behavior gets you different outcomes.  Regardless of strain.  (which might have been a contributing factor).

[oilcan]

I find it a bit sad that Bo has posted the same facts about how virus outbreaks are contained and limited, for about four months, and yet zero penetration of the thick heads that might benefit from those facts.

Ezra Klein is right.  People are turning partisan views into their core identity.   They cling to counterfactual beliefs in order to preserve their identity.  How absurd. 

[Kam]

[Kam]

Racial health disparity, explained.

When Uché Blackstock, an urgent-care physician and founder and CEO of Advancing Health Equity, saw initial reports from China regarding characteristics of people who are at higher risk for contracting coronavirus she knew it would spell trouble for fellow members of the Black community.

“Black communities were essentially already sick before coronavirus,” Blackstock told MarketWatch. “They carry the highest burden of chronic diseases like diabetes, high blood pressure, asthma, even obesity.” In addition, health-care institutions in predominantly black neighborhoods are often under-funded and provide lower quality care than in other neighborhoods, she said.


The nightmare Blackstock foresaw has become an unfortunate reality.

Nearly one-third of Black Americans have lost someone they know due to coronavirus, compared to 13% across all populations, according to a recent Ipsos/Washington Post poll. Additionally, Black COVID-19 patients have 2.7 times the odds of being admitted to the hospital compared to non-Hispanic white patients.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/black-communities-were-essentially-already-sick-before-coronavirus-pandemic-highlights-preexisting-condition-with-health-care-and-race-2020-06-30?mod=home-page

Yep.

I went to high school with Uche.

[kiidcarter8]

Let's go!!!!!!!!


No - there will not be a trial.

[REDSTATEWARD]

So much for the
“ Summer of Love”

Slowly but steadily our  local leaders are fed up with
“ peaceful protests” and reclaiming and protecting our cities.

In Seattle the CHOP zone is being dismantled. Mayor Jenny Durkan, a “progressive”,has had enough from the thugs and agitators including a socialist member of City Council.
Memo to the rioters—probably not a good idea to spray paint the Mayor’s house.

In Portland, police, weary of a month of “ peaceful” protests,  finally declared the latest one last night a riot and started arresting demonstrators after using tear gas to disperse the crowd.

In Detroit the police chief angrily
disputed a claim by Michigan congressperson Rashida Tlaib
that demonstrators were mistreated by police pointing out that the crowd was inflamed, on purpose , by a band of agitators.

Commend the Police!

[Kam]

https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/protesters-say-aurora-pd-used-force-at-elijah-mcclain-vigil.html?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&fbclid=IwAR2romJMIY8PJIRR_RA7XUgGgFixrXjV1Pv8LkhTeXzrFuPB4issJankEjw

Good work, Aurora PD. Keep those violin vigils in their place!

This is what happens when anarchist rioting protesters make society sick of them,  the violin vigil folk  pay a price.

Like Australia, America has a Constitution.  There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution.  The very first amendment gives people the right to assemble peacefully.  The police in Aurora trampled on those rights.  It seems you want to live in a totalitarian society, not a free one.

[Kam]

As the defunding vote in NY approaches...


"First dispirit them - then tell them they are doing a bad job - and then what you do is  .. with the Occupy movement that you asked to go there - across the street from City Hall - tell them you are cutting a billion dollars out of the budget - and oh yeah - instead of saying we are in austere times, in the middle of the corona virus - and we have to cut the budget and it npains me to do so - I am taking it and putting it toward generic youth programs.  There is a Police Athletic League already, but I dont want to digress.  Generic youth programs.  Are they dramatically underfunded?  Is this addressing something - or is this an idea or an ideal that you are implementing now - which puts the NY citizen on the sideline?
Now - let me tell you what (DeBlazio) is doing.  He is cutting one thousand one hundred and sixty three police officers from the next academy class that is coming in.  So imagine this - even though all this stuff is going on NEGATIVE with the NYPD, they've got this great history that says "I'm gonna go in there anyway" - and for forty thousand dollars...when you take out taxes you take about twenty three thousand dollars home - you commute to the most expensive city in the country - you won't wear your uniform because you are afraid of being targeted = and you will go and you will TRAIN and you will DIRECT TRAFFIC and you will try to rebuild this city ina  very tense time.  But then you get a call that you are NO LONGER going to be in the Academy.  Because they are looking to save money
They are also diverting money from school safety, where the police department was handling it - andf putting it in the hands of the Department of Education.  So now SCHOOL SAFETY GOES ON THE BACK BURNER. Schools can handle it themselves.   UNBELIEVABLE series of events!


-   Brian Kilmeade

The problem is what i have bolded in your quote.  NYPD police should be made up of individuals from the community.  Not from people who have to commute in from other municipalities and have no stake in the community they are policing.  They should have to shop here and send their kids to school here.  They shouldn't have the option of driving home to Westchester or Long Island or wherever it is they live.  If you want to be a NYC cop then they should require that you live in NYC.  There isn't a good reason why NYC with its millions of residents should need to go outside of its borders to find qualified recruits.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically despite the fact that outside of himself, members of Congress and our NATO allies have all been briefed, and not one of them has said the intelligence is made up. 

Our "president" is doing this to excuse the fact that he took no action, and plans to take no action, against a country that is working toward killing active duty American troops abroad, and very likely already has.  That same country also happens to have actively worked to elect him in 2016, while the "president's" campaign welcomed that help.

The "president" not taking action on Russia's killing of US Troops is only the most egregious example of his taking Russia friendly policy positions over the last three and a half years, while never criticizing, not once, the nation or its leader for scheming to subvert our elections, surely because he is hoping to receive that type of aid again in 2020.

But lets all talk about fucking CHOP.

[kiidcarter8]

In Detroit the police chief angrily
disputed a claim by Michigan congressperson Rashida Tlaib
that demonstrators were mistreated by police pointing out that the crowd was inflamed, on purpose , by a band of agitators


Yes

Similar to Missouri

Similar to many locales.


Seattle and Detroit chiefs seem very competent

[kiidcarter8]

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically despite the fact that outside of himself, members of Congress and our NATO allies have all been briefed, and not one of them has said the intelligence is made up. 

Our "president" is doing this to excuse the fact that he took no action, and plans to take no action, against a country that is working toward killing active duty American troops abroad, and very likely already has.  That same country also happens to have actively worked to elect him in 2016, while the "president's" campaign welcomed that help.

The "president" not taking action on Russia's killing of US Troops is only the most egregious example of his taking Russia friendly policy positions over the last three and a half years, while never criticizing, not once, the nation or its leader for scheming to subvert our elections, surely because he is hoping to receive that type of aid again in 2020.

But lets all talk about fucking CHOP.

There is no action to take yet

[kiidcarter8]

The problem is what i have bolded in your quote.  NYPD police should be made up of individuals from the community.  Not from people who have to commute in from other municipalities and have no stake in the community they are policing. 


heh

Good luck with that

[bambu.]

New York was the center of the virus, for various reasons.
The result has been that they got it under control.  The danger to NY now is infected people coming in from states that did not take those measures.

Close the borders and don''t let anyone in.

Maybe some sort of reserve or prolonged internment for virus deniers?

Exactly.

8 or 11 or something virus hotspot zones (36 suburbs) have been declared in  Melbourne city Victoria state bambuland..
People in these hotspot zones are not allowed out of their homes, except for 4 very limited reasons.

NSW state (bambustate), which borders Vic state to the north has declared that people residing in the Melb hotspot zones are not allowed to travel into NSW.  If they're caught in NSW they'll be fined $11,000 or tossed in prison for 6 months.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically despite the fact that outside of himself, members of Congress and our NATO allies have all been briefed, and not one of them has said the intelligence is made up. 

Our "president" is doing this to excuse the fact that he took no action, and plans to take no action, against a country that is working toward killing active duty American troops abroad, and very likely already has.  That same country also happens to have actively worked to elect him in 2016, while the "president's" campaign welcomed that help.

The "president" not taking action on Russia's killing of US Troops is only the most egregious example of his taking Russia friendly policy positions over the last three and a half years, while never criticizing, not once, the nation or its leader for scheming to subvert our elections, surely because he is hoping to receive that type of aid again in 2020.

But lets all talk about fucking CHOP.

There is no action to take yet

I'll repeat something you apparently didn't read in the section you quoted:

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically

He is not saying that the intelligence isn't strong enough to act on or that the timing would be bad for some reason.  He saying the whole thing is made up. 

He is not saying the allegations are serious and will be forcefully responded to if they turn out to be true.  He cares only how this effects him politically, while carefully avoiding criticizing Putin.

You continue to straight make shit up to excuse and normalize the actions or non-actions of a "president" who has long ago conclusively proved that he is dangerous, and at the very least unqualified and incompetent when not actively working against American interests.

[NeedsAdjustments]

There is no action to take yet

And even if the intelligence wasn't strong enough to take action on, how about holding off on inviting Russia to the US for G7 talks, and maybe refrain from openly advocating their return to the group?

No?  Killing American soldiers wouldn't justify that?