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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41070 on: July 02, 2020, 03:18:39 PM »


That in numerous American states you can just walk around with military style weaponry is bizarre and dangerous.  Just seconds away from a(nother) potential mass shooting.

Thank the NRA culture that has really pushed the notion that gun owners are all responsible,  stable people.   And that all these armed civilians form our best insurance policy against tyranny. 

What is amazing is how inverted this picture is.   It's people peacefully petitioning and demonstrating,  and getting to secure polls, and having free access to information,  that thwart tyranny.   And having nonpartisan federal judges whose only fealty is to the rule of law.   

Guns didn't save us from where we are now.   A secure and easy access to a voting station,  and unhindered access to facts, might have stopped a lot of the current madness.    And this madness is very much the tyranny of extremists.   So,  QED,  that whole gun culture thing doesn't stop tyranny. 
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« Reply #41071 on: July 02, 2020, 03:24:27 PM »

He lasted as long as he could.

Mayor Goode? Or the Police Commissioner. Try to be clear, Echo. Goode wasn't bad. He had little support from the cops, though, and likely because he was black, too. When Sambore resigned he inferred was because he being made a "surrogate" to Goode.

Um, yeah. He is your boss, dimwit.

Goode actually beat Frank "Il Duce 2.0" Rizzo to win the first time as mayor. And that was a big change in the city at the time. Rizzo's statue was defiantly raised, subsequently, but recently removed, as was his mural in South Philly.

Way past time for that one.

No, neither the mayor nor the commish.

It was not about the MOVE issue at all, but the people to whom it was directed are likely to know of what I speak.

I'm sorry that you were confused.


Ahhhh....the code.

Got it.

And yet, I don't think you are actually sorry. For someone who wants to see change in the world, you don't seem to be one who expects to see it from others.

Good luck with that.

Yet, some of us actually can change how we deliver our opinions, and yet others cannot or will not see or hear that change.

Perhaps it is too subtle for them to take in, as they are so eager to engage in enabling dysfunction because it remains familiar.

Think of it this way. People develop expectations, then wait to see those expectations met. When the expectations are not met, they work hard to see that they are.

This is especially true in social groups.

Think of sitting in someone else's "spot" at the lunch table at work. Watch how uncomfortable others are, when you slot yourself into so-and-so's "usual" place.

Salvador Minuchin discussed all of this in family systems theory. His work is something you should read, and maybe you have. It is all about reforming family structure, not replacing it. Quite good stuff with applications in many other places for us to consider. Even here, where their is a bit of a family atmosphere, though not always family friendly, eh?

When an individual commits to changing his or her behavior, it is confusing to those who expect that behavior to remain what they believe it always has been. The new behaviors cause stress for them, and to overcome that stress they engage in behaviors to work at restoring within that individual what they had come to expect.

So, there's that.

And that is all I will say about your code, sir, as I commit to remaining as polite and respectful in my presentations of opinion as I am able.

Be well, and keep an open mind.



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41072 on: July 02, 2020, 03:25:19 PM »

I've often felt that Boston should erect a statue to it.

Certainly Harvard yard would make a fitting place for that construction, given the university's long-term connection to the most powerful members of the US.

In fact, IVY League schools certainly have a ways to go in terms of making an environment friendly to all of its admitted students.


Ike Okonkwo, a recent Harvard graduate, said he remembered thinking, “Why does no one look like me?” when he first arrived on campus. This is something that I have also personally dealt with since preschool, always being one of the few black students in a class. Not seeing yourself represented can be isolating and demotivating. You start to question your worth and whether or not you deserve to be at these institutions. Not only that, but while student diversity is rising, faculty diversity certainly isn’t. According to a study by the US Department of Education in 2014, 74 percent of faculty in institutions of higher education across the country are white. Nine percent are Asian, 5 percent black, and 4 percent Hispanic. According to Harvard freshman Che Applewaite, “Often, it is hard to become what you can’t see.”

And this disparity does more than implicitly discourage students of color. Sometimes the discouragement is right out in the open. “Students of color, myself included, have constantly had to be in classrooms where professors spew microaggressions and do not recognize that the classroom is a politicized space,” Nikkie Ubinas, a senior at Brown, told me. “Students of color feel like they must constantly challenge racism, whether the aggressors are their peers or their own professors.” Dealing with this racism forces students to determine whether or not they can take a class or seek out help from faculty. Alexis Wyatt, a senior at Dartmouth, said she had to leave a seminar and ask the college to form an alternate section because of her professor’s racial biases. All this takes a major toll on students’ mental health.


https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/for-students-of-color-ivy-league-schools-have-a-long-way-to-go/

Ah, yes, the Ivies.

When Woodrow Wilson was president of Princeton, he actively discouraged Blacks from attending. Hardly the only institution to do so, but probably the only future US president to do so as an Ivy president.

Around 1920, bunches of the Ivies enacted plans to reduce the percentage of Jews that went to them (or were engaged as faculty, for that matter).

Discrimination by the Ivies is an old dance, too.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41073 on: July 02, 2020, 03:26:35 PM »


And that is all I will say about your code, sir, as I commit to remaining as polite and respectful in my presentations of opinion as I am able.

I believe that.

Good luck.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41075 on: July 02, 2020, 03:41:39 PM »

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“Our Armed Forces would be better served if President Trump spent more time reading his daily briefing and less time planning military parades and defending relics of the Confederacy.”

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« Reply #41077 on: July 02, 2020, 04:50:56 PM »

Holy shit - Arizona congressman lays it all out for an incensed Neil Cavuto on Fox - defending his state's actions and calling for Fauci and Burks to "expire".

For what it's worth Neil did have a bit of his thought process tangled as the lawmaker said "let me refute all the numbers"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41078 on: July 02, 2020, 05:15:58 PM »

While in Texas, the governor recognizes the importance of masks.
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« Reply #41079 on: July 02, 2020, 05:21:50 PM »

Holy shit - Arizona congressman lays it all out for an incensed Neil Cavuto on Fox - defending his state's actions and calling for Fauci and Burks to "expire".

For what it's worth Neil did have a bit of his thought process tangled as the lawmaker said "let me refute all the numbers"

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“I think that Birx and Fauci, have gone well past their — the’ve expired. Their time of usefulness has expired,” Biggs told Cavuto. “What they do is when the president comes out and makes a policy, because he is the president and he is the policymaker, when they make these statements that they make, they engender panic and hysteria and undermine what the president is doing. That’s what’s critical.”

Rep Biggs seems to be unable to grasp that (a) the president needed "undermining" on much of what he said and (b) their usefulness on COVID-19 is far greater than Trump's or Biggs' usefulness.

"Biggs also questioned the last time Fauci treated a coronavirus patient, prompting Cavuto to ask the same question of Biggs. He noted he isn’t a health expert, so he doesn’t have to handle patients, inciting Cavuto to reply, “But you’re telling the ones who are to get out, get off the commission, ‘We don’t need you.'”"

We don't need Rep. Biggs. I imagine his term expires, too, though I suppose he is not one of the many GOP representatives leaving the field.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41080 on: July 02, 2020, 05:23:12 PM »

Coronavirus cases are rising in 40 of 50 US states

Directly attributable to Trump pushing states to re-open early whether prepared or not (basically none were, and that was known ahead of time).

Cases only dropping in SD, NE and a bunch of Northeast states most of which got hit hard and belatedly took strong measures, which are working now.

The earlier you take action and the stronger your measures, the shorter the need and you get fewer infections and deaths and can reopen sooner.  That's been the lesson all along.

Looks like Trump just plans to take a wait-and-see attitude into the election, bungling all the way.

I’m not sure Nebraska Governor Ricketts has reversed himself on this stupid ass policy:


https://apnews.com/070d19e75a103397bbb9292c3007d98c

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41081 on: July 02, 2020, 05:37:00 PM »

Herman Cain is my name
and I rode on the campaign train.
Til that big old virus came
and tore up my plans again.

In the rally in Tusla town,
with the rally,
just barely alive,
I swear by the Covid nasal swab,
you can't raise the polls back up
when they've gone too deep!


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« Reply #41082 on: July 02, 2020, 05:38:16 PM »

Herman Cain is my name
and I rode on the campaign train.
Til that big old virus came
and tore up my plans again.

In the rally in Tusla town,
with the rally,
just barely alive,
I swear by the Covid nasal swab,
you can't raise the polls back up
when they've gone too deep!




Yep.
Herman "Nova" Cain.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-ally-herman-cain-attended-125653947.html
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« Reply #41083 on: July 02, 2020, 05:42:39 PM »

https://southseattleemerald.com/2020/07/02/opinion-chop-not-the-beginning-and-its-not-the-end/?fbclid=IwAR2_epXIg8CQIJSWqGsubii86S_Ld519D7CDmOtkPwAlJMMJOwA2H43e4ts

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Tear gassing protesters would not have saved lives. The second shooting victim, DeJuan Anderson, was treated and saved by CHOP medics then transported to the hospital. Most CHOP medics have medical training and licenses and volunteered to protect protesters. Mr. Anderson has told several news outlets that he was shot by White males who called him a racial slur as he was leaving CHOP. Still, the narrative was spun to smear protesters.
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« Reply #41084 on: July 02, 2020, 05:54:45 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/coronavirus-contact-tracing-subpoena/index.html

A NY county forced party goers to speak to COVID-19 contact tracers.

It worked.
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