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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hamilton Samuels]

Ok...but, why?

https://www.phillyvoice.com/same-sex-couple-carries-same-baby-pregnancy/amp/

[bambu-wisdom]

Ok...but, why?

https://www.phillyvoice.com/same-sex-couple-carries-same-baby-pregnancy/amp/

Because they can.

[bambu-wisdom]

Now Trump wants to abolish the 'anchor baby' law.
Wise man.

More 'honey' off the table.

[REDSTATEWARD]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/north-dakota-voter-id.html

Just want to chronicle the boomerang effects as they multiply across America.  The voter suppression effort on the rez in ND may actually lead to HIGHER voter turnout this year.  Article explains how.

I think this is a pattern we've sen elsewhere with Voter ID.  After the vote suppression effort becomes law, it is met with an unsustainable effort to counteract its effects.  The advocates for the original law can then point to those voter turnout numbers as proof that the law doesn't actually suppress votes.  Then next election, when everyone has moved on to other things, the law bears fruit for its advocates.

Voter ID Laws have never been shown to suppress turnout. They are the result of overwhelming demand by ALL voting  blocs including minorities.

[facilitatorn]

Red, watching trump give his Roy Moore kiss of death to several closer than expected Senate races this week, implores his spinless brethren to ramp up the cheating. Red and the treasonous GOP must be stopped at all costs, but it’s a good sign they are this desperate.

Working a vote flipping algorithm into the machines in Texas is awful low, but to exist politically without deceit republicans would have to be better people.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Good reading for those who refuse to believe that Trump's violent rhetoric amounts to incitement; it isn't only on Trump, but also his enablers in the GOP.  Saying that Trump's language, attacks, and encouragement of physical threats was irresponsible wasn't so controversial for Marco Rubio a few years ago. Now he is too much of a chicken-shit to say it.  So this is also on him:

https://crooked.com/articles/gop-problem-from-hell/

As much as I loathe Trump, it's not all on him. Only an extreme partisan or an idiot would say that.

You are welcome to point out where anyone is saying this is "all on him."  You can start with the post you quoted.

Guess you don't read what you post, or if you do, infer well from what was written. Saying the GOP has folded under the influence of Trump is essentially saying that the divisive times are Trump's doing.

Don't play the bullshit parsing game here, fella.

You're just redstate in blue underwear.

You attribute an argument to me that I did not make, then claim I am playing a "bullshit parsing game" when I point that out.  I'm not the one here who is playing games, fella.

I said the GOP shares blame for Trump's continued rhetoric of hate and violence.  They absolutely do.  If they came out against it, and used their powers of oversight to build real consequences against it, it would stop.  But yeah, "The divisive times" are Trump's doing.  And the doing of his GOP enablers.  And the doing of FOX news.  And the doing of media platforms (including Facebook) that echo hate, and provide safe spaces for white supremacists and other "deplorables." 

If you have an actual argument against any of that, have at it.  If you are only interested in burnishing some kind of imagined non-partisan bonafides that fool absolutely no one here, you are welcome to that too.  Just don't expect another response from me.

So you think only the GOP and Trump are responsible for the topic political culture.

Understood.

Fella.

LOL.  You can't even read and/or accurately restate the post you quote, immediately preceding yours.  I won't expect you to be able to follow the rest of this argument.  Feel free to sit this out if its above you.

[barton]

The pair discovered fertility specialists Dr. Kathy Doody and husband, Dr. Kevin Doody, in Bedford, Texas — the first doctors to perform reciprocal Effortless In Vitro Fertilization using radical technology, the process through which the Coulters were able to conceive.

The doctor's son,  Howdy, made medical history when he was born with multiple strings attached to his limbs rather than just the single umbilical cord. 

[NeedsAdjustments]

Voter ID Laws have never been shown to suppress turnout.

I imagine that such a study would be difficult to do.  Voter turnout varies in different elections for different reasons, and strict Voter ID laws are relatively new, while their effects may be initially offset by the efforts I describe in my previous post.  But to say that no study has shown a negative effect is flatly false:

GAO analyzed three sources of data on turnout among eligible and registered voters, including data from official voter records and a nationwide survey. GAO's evaluation of voter turnout suggests that turnout decreased in two selected states—Kansas and Tennessee—from the 2008 to the 2012 general elections (the two most recent general elections) to a greater extent than turnout decreased in the selected comparison states—Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, and Maine. GAO's analysis suggests that the turnout decreases in Kansas and Tennessee beyond decreases in the comparison states were attributable to changes in those two states' voter ID requirements. GAO found that turnout among eligible and registered voters declined more in Kansas and Tennessee than it declined in comparison states—by an estimated 1.9 to 2.2 percentage points more in Kansas and 2.2 to 3.2 percentage points more in Tennessee—and the results were consistent across the different data sources and voter populations used in the analysis.

https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-14-634

And no study is required to see the effects of the law in North Dakota, as documented in the article Bart posted.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Good reading for those who refuse to believe that Trump's violent rhetoric amounts to incitement; it isn't only on Trump, but also his enablers in the GOP.  Saying that Trump's language, attacks, and encouragement of physical threats was irresponsible wasn't so controversial for Marco Rubio a few years ago. Now he is too much of a chicken-shit to say it.  So this is also on him:

https://crooked.com/articles/gop-problem-from-hell/

As much as I loathe Trump, it's not all on him. Only an extreme partisan or an idiot would say that.

You are welcome to point out where anyone is saying this is "all on him."  You can start with the post you quoted.

Guess you don't read what you post, or if you do, infer well from what was written. Saying the GOP has folded under the influence of Trump is essentially saying that the divisive times are Trump's doing.

Don't play the bullshit parsing game here, fella.

You're just redstate in blue underwear.

You attribute an argument to me that I did not make, then claim I am playing a "bullshit parsing game" when I point that out.  I'm not the one here who is playing games, fella.

I said the GOP shares blame for Trump's continued rhetoric of hate and violence.  They absolutely do.  If they came out against it, and used their powers of oversight to build real consequences against it, it would stop.  But yeah, "The divisive times" are Trump's doing.  And the doing of his GOP enablers.  And the doing of FOX news.  And the doing of media platforms (including Facebook) that echo hate, and provide safe spaces for white supremacists and other "deplorables." 

If you have an actual argument against any of that, have at it.  If you are only interested in burnishing some kind of imagined non-partisan bonafides that fool absolutely no one here, you are welcome to that too.  Just don't expect another response from me.

So you think only the GOP and Trump are responsible for the topic political culture.

Understood.

Fella.

LOL.  You can't even read and/or accurately restate the post you quote, immediately preceding yours.  I won't expect you to be able to follow the rest of this argument.  Feel free to sit this out if its above you.

Ahhh. The dismissive tone of the cocksure leftist. So quick to display the behaviors he claims to stand against.

Thanks for proving the original point.

[Hamilton Samuels]

The pair discovered fertility specialists Dr. Kathy Doody and husband, Dr. Kevin Doody, in Bedford, Texas — the first doctors to perform reciprocal Effortless In Vitro Fertilization using radical technology, the process through which the Coulters were able to conceive.

The doctor's son,  Howdy, made medical history when he was born with multiple strings attached to his limbs rather than just the single umbilical cord.

Not many know of Howdy's twin, though, many have heard of Howdy. The twin? Why, Double Doody, of course.

[bambu-wisdom]

The pair discovered fertility specialists Dr. Kathy Doody and husband, Dr. Kevin Doody, in Bedford, Texas — the first doctors to perform reciprocal Effortless In Vitro Fertilization using radical technology, the process through which the Coulters were able to conceive.

The doctor's son,  Howdy, made medical history when he was born with multiple strings attached to his limbs rather than just the single umbilical cord.

LOL

I love the internet.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Thanks for proving the original point.

You never had any point.  You extremized my position so that you could criticize it for being extreme.  Maybe you see some value in that.  I don’t.  And very much doubt anyone else here does.

Have a good one. 

[facilitatorn]

No value, except the value bothsiderism has to obscure the more nefarious poison spewing from the increasingly desperate republican bunker.

[FlyingVProd]

Dem Mayor Hints He Will Soon Decide About Running for President in 2020

BY: Jeffrey Cimmino
October 21, 2018 10:24 am

https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-mayor-hints-will-soon-decide-running-president-2020/

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I cannot support Eric Garcetti for President of the United States, because he is a Rhodes Scholar, like Bill Clinton. I want Presidents of the United States who studied in the USA; at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc. I do not agree with England on many issues, and I do not want a President who studied in England. We do not need England to train and educate the leaders of the USA.

Your complete and utter lack of comprehension of what the Rhodes Scholar program is about is commensurate with the degree of your opposition to it.

So, you think that being a Rhodes Scholar might help him more than it would hurt him. As for myself, I want the people who are educated here in the USA.

What do you guys think about Antonio Villaraigosa for President?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Villaraigosa

The farmers would love him. We would improve relations with Mexico and there would not be a wall. The world would be getting great wine from California, and great California Pepper Jack cheese. The unions love Antonio Villaraigosa. Antonio is big on civil rights. Antonio is big on education as being the great equalizer. Antonio believes in doing service to help others, and he was a good public servant as Mayor in Los Angeles. Antonio is also big on helping the homeless.

It is very early, we can examine many ideas pertaining to potential candidates for 2020. I want to see who we have who went to colleges here in the USA.

And Douglas Kmiec can serve our nation, he is brilliant, and he is a good public servant...

https://law.pepperdine.edu/faculty-research/douglas-kmiec/

There are a lot of good people who need to come forward to serve our nation. We need some new, fresh people, who support good human rights, and who will stand up for America, while remaining a beacon in the world with our Statue of Liberty.

Trump has until the next election to renegotiate our trade deals, Trump needs to focus on the trade deals until we elect a new President in 2020.

Salute,

Tony V.

Stick with Ms Harris if you are thinking Cali

Or maybe Kevin Johnson.

In 1989, while still an NBA player, Johnson founded St. HOPE (Helping Others Pursue Excellence) as an after-school program for kids in his native Oak Park neighborhood of Sacramento, California. St. HOPE eventually expanded to run as a nonprofit umbrella organization that consisted of three divisions: St. HOPE Academy, St. HOPE Public Schools, and St. HOPE Development Corporation. This encompassed the new vision to be a nonprofit community development corporation whose mission is to "revitalize communities through public education, civic leadership, economic development, and the arts." Johnson served as CEO of St. HOPE until January 2008.

St. HOPE Public Schools is a pre-K through 12th grade independent charter school system that provides education to nearly 2,000 students in seven small schools.[26] One of the schools St. HOPE impacted was Sacramento High School (colloquially known as Sac High and now the Sacramento Charter High School), where three generations of Johnson's family including him attended. In October 2002, Sac High was at risk of being shut down and restricted into five smaller schools due to low test scores.[27] But by January 2003, Johnson had raised seed money from the Gates Foundation and drafted a petition to reopen Sac High as an independent charter school. On September 2, 2003 Sac High reopened as Sacramento Charter High School, a charter school with 1,450 students. Since St. HOPE's involvement with Sac High, student performance has improved. In 2010 Sac High's API score improved to 719, compared to 610 in 2006. The number of students who completed all courses required for University of California or California State University Admission also rose between those years from 84% to 90.6%.[28]

These improved test scores attracted the attention of a school in New York and St. HOPE eventually expanded into Harlem at the St. HOPE Leadership Academy Charter School which opened in 2008. Since 2007, the decision to expand St. HOPE to New York has been taught as a case study in the Entrepreneurship in Education Reform class at Harvard Business School. Following presentation of the case study, Johnson discusses it over lunch with the Harvard students and faculty. The class works as a feeder program for students to participate in the Mayoral Fellowship Program in Sacramento.[29]



Garcetti has a bachelors and a masters degree from COLUMBIA University - and was a professor at USC and at Occidental College.

Of course he has both Mexican and Russian in his bloodline - (not that there is anything wrong with this)

Good for Kevin Johnson!

And I like Harris, she is a fighter, and she is needed.

Salute,

Tony V.

[FlyingVProd]

BOXER OSCAR DE LA HOYA 'SERIOUS' ABOUT RUN FOR PRESIDENT
'There's obviously many reasons'
Published: 09/10/2018 at 5:36 PM

https://www.wnd.com/2018/09/boxer-oscar-de-la-hoya-serious-about-run-for-president/ 

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Oscar is cool, and he helps a lot of young people. 

My friend's son, Neeco "The Rooster" Macias, just signed with Golden Boy, so that is just one more example right there of good things which Oscar has done, Oscar is going to make the Rooster a star. Rooster has a big fight coming up in November. 

Link...

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/10/neeco-the-rooster-macias-to-face-jesus-el-renuente-soto-karass/


Salute,

Tony V.