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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54405 on: October 24, 2020, 01:57:12 PM »

In the top seat?

I wont argue

But I would expect it in my kids lifetime.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54406 on: October 24, 2020, 02:15:02 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54409 on: October 24, 2020, 03:03:30 PM »



 Most people lack the knowledge to pick a president.   
LOL!
Says a  guy that voted for Hillary.
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« Reply #54410 on: October 24, 2020, 03:12:51 PM »

Weak,  and out of context.   In context of my post,  if you were offered a choice in 2016, between Trump and a GOP president selected by the House, which would you choose.  Not trying to trap you,  it's a fairly simple point.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54411 on: October 24, 2020, 03:22:03 PM »

 After the campaign?

Perfectly fine with Trump.

(sorry - I know you didnt ask me)
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« Reply #54412 on: October 24, 2020, 03:45:56 PM »

After the campaign?

Perfectly fine with Trump.

(sorry - I know you didnt ask me)

An open question.   But I'm asking who do you think Congress, in a modified Westminster system,  would have picked from a large field of choices (highly unlikely to have been Trump) -- and would that person have been a better POTUS?    (so there would be no campaigning)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54413 on: October 24, 2020, 03:49:35 PM »

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/trump-climate-change-debate-economy-environment-false-choice.html

Trump on steroids has showed us something very important about the oil, gas, and coal industries. We’ve got to stop juicing losers. It gives them short term energy and makes them feel like they have a “protective glow”, but it just deepens and hastens the disasters they’ve already set in motion.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54414 on: October 24, 2020, 03:53:07 PM »

After the campaign?

Perfectly fine with Trump.

(sorry - I know you didnt ask me)

An open question.   But I'm asking who do you think Congress, in a modified Westminster system,  would have picked from a large field of choices (highly unlikely to have been Trump) -- and would that person have been a better POTUS?    (so there would be no campaigning)

Actually thats not what you asked

But its ok
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54415 on: October 24, 2020, 03:53:23 PM »

NYT's editorial board

R.I.P., G.O.P.

The Party of Lincoln had a good run. Then came Mr. Trump.[/b]



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/opinion/sunday/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


Of all the things President Trump has destroyed, the Republican Party is among the most dismaying.

“Destroyed” is perhaps too simplistic, though. It would be more precise to say that Mr. Trump accelerated his party’s demise, exposing the rot that has been eating at its core for decades and leaving it a hollowed-out shell devoid of ideas, values or integrity, committed solely to preserving its own power even at the expense of democratic norms, institutions and ideals.


A healthy political system needs robust, competing parties to give citizens a choice of ideological, governing and policy visions. More specifically, center-right parties have long been crucial to the health of modern liberal democracies, according to the Harvard political scientist Daniel Ziblatt’s study of the emergence of democracy in Western Europe. Among other benefits, a strong center right can co-opt more palatable aspects of the far right, isolating and draining energy from the more radical elements that threaten to destabilize the system.


Today’s G.O.P. does not come close to serving this function. It has instead allowed itself to be co-opted and radicalized by Trumpism. Its ideology has been reduced to a slurry of paranoia, white grievance and authoritarian populism. Its governing vision is reactionary, a cross beyond obstructionism and owning the libs. Its policy agenda, as defined by the party platform, is whatever President Trump wants — which might not be so pathetic if Mr. Trump’s interests went beyond “Build a wall!”



But many of these disillusioned Republicans also acknowledge that their team has been descending into white grievance, revanchism and know-nothing populism for decades. Mr. Trump just greased the slide. “He is the logical conclusion of what the Republican Party has become in the last 50 or so years,” the longtime party strategist Stuart Stevens asserts in his new book, “It Was All a Lie.”

The scars of Mr. Trump’s presidency will linger long after he leaves office. Some Republicans believe that, if those scars run only four years deep, rather than eight, their party can be nursed back to health.

Others question whether there is anything left worth saving.

Mr. Stevens’s prescription: “Burn it to the ground, and start over.”


Preaching to the choir.

But hopefully its a big fucking choir that sings loudly and clearly,

burn the corrupt and cowardly GOP to the ground.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54417 on: October 24, 2020, 04:12:08 PM »

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« Reply #54418 on: October 24, 2020, 04:18:36 PM »

The Kushners about to be richer


https://www.foxnews.com/media/jared-kushner-and-ivanka-trump-threaten-to-sue-lincoln-project-over-times-square-ads

Somebody's delusional and it isn't the Lincoln Project.

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A public official can’t collect damages for a defamatory statement – even if it is false – unless he or she can prove "that the statement was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard of whether it was true or false."

Jaren and Ivanka can try to make the claim that they are not public officials until they are blue in the face.

If it is even somewhat true, TLP is protected.

And even if it weren't, proving that TLP knew it was 100% false seems unlikely.

This is just "the libel bully," as Trump is known to be, lending his "expertise" to the children. Not only will Jared and Ivanka lose this, but they might get hit with a SLAPP suit and damages, themselves.
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