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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55770 on: November 03, 2020, 11:20:38 PM »
 Early votes will be counted later than poll votes,  so many states will see the blue shift effect.   A lot of early results are very skewed.   In some states mail votes won't be counted until starting tomorrow.   I wouldn't trust any proclamations tonight.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55771 on: November 03, 2020, 11:23:35 PM »
Quote from: oilcan on November 03, 2020, 11:20:38 PM
Early votes will be counted later than poll votes,  so many states will see the blue shift effect.   A lot of early results are very skewed.   In some states mail votes won't be counted until starting tomorrow.   I wouldn't trust any proclamations tonight.

I think there will be no proclamations tonight about the presidential race.

And a couple states won't be determined until Thursday or Friday.
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« Reply #55772 on: November 03, 2020, 11:28:03 PM »
Wait. A few days, at least.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55773 on: November 03, 2020, 11:40:52 PM »
I think this is 2016 reprised.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55774 on: November 04, 2020, 12:40:59 AM »
Arizona, Georgia, Nebraska’s 2nd, and the Blue Wall should keep this from getting 2016 ugly.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55775 on: November 04, 2020, 01:17:40 AM »
Quote from: bambu. on November 03, 2020, 08:52:02 PM
Should be able to vote online.

No one wants a hacked election.
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« Reply #55776 on: November 04, 2020, 01:29:37 AM »
Quote from: Kam on November 04, 2020, 01:17:40 AM
Quote from: bambu. on November 03, 2020, 08:52:02 PM
Should be able to vote online.

No one wants a hacked election.

That may very well explain Florida.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55777 on: November 04, 2020, 02:34:50 AM »
Some speech. He thinks he’s los8ng.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55778 on: November 04, 2020, 02:56:01 AM »
Time and math are not on his side.
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« Reply #55779 on: November 04, 2020, 03:02:13 AM »
Where's the good news for the Left?

AZ for Biden
Sen. Hickenlooper in CO
Legal weed in NJ

... and a chance Biden wins.

Another underperform for the Dems.

Maybe they needed a better candidate folks were actually excited about.
Dems usually go for the bland establishment candidate (Mondale, Gore, Kerry, Hillary).  The two exceptions when the Dems ran outsiders who generated enthusiasm-- Clinton and Obama -- were both winning plays.  All the establishment candidates lost.  Sure it's not easy to find political stars, but enthusiasm matters.

Otherwise:
Biden should have talked up the Obama economy more.  And the Bill Clinton economy.  And made the case that the Dems run the economy better.

Tied his much improved handling of CV-19 with opening the economy sooner and better.

Also should have campaigned with Jill more, as she is smart, appealing and looks a lot more youthful than Ol' Joe.

And should have spent more time in MI and WI and PA, the three states that again will determine the election.  Close n NC, GA and FL is nice but still = losing.  Just win those 3 midwest states and it was a wrap.  Same as last go for Hillary.

Another huge 4-year *SIGH*

Best scenario wight now is Biden still pulls through and survives all the Trump legal challenges in PA.  And a 50-50 Senate.  So could still be a DEM sweep by the barest of margins (in what should have been a landslide year).
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« Reply #55780 on: November 04, 2020, 03:02:43 AM »
If Biden is to win it will be thru the count of the mail in ballots.
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« Reply #55781 on: November 04, 2020, 03:04:06 AM »
Gee, all those posts will polls were really worth it.  They certainly predicted th--- oh wait...
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« Reply #55782 on: November 04, 2020, 03:51:59 AM »
I’d very happily take that outcome at this point. It gives us two years to rip out the right wing communications network root and branch.

First thing first, trump is a sick mad bastard who must be stopped.
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« Reply #55783 on: November 04, 2020, 04:47:20 AM »
If the Dems best candidates are women, blacks and gays, it might be tough to win the presidency until the next generation rises up in 15-20 years.  Though the disastrous  GOP presidents keep trying to help DEMs win.

Where are the white males who might run in 2024 for the Dems?

They had been counting on the New South for some time, but Edwards self-immolated and Kaine came up small.  Any white male pols rising in the Midwest?  Seems mostly female Dems rising there (Whitmer, Duckworth, Baldwin). 

I guess looking to the liberal NE, there's Cuomo with a shot -- did a terrible job initially with the virus, but then showed compassion and humanity while significantly improving his CV handling.  Beto is just 48 but his resume is only 3 terms as a congressman.

Simple truth is it's easier to WIN when your candidate is a white male and doesn't have to overcome sexism and/or racism.
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« Reply #55784 on: November 04, 2020, 04:50:23 AM »
The key political event in the last few months was RBG dying and Trump exciting his base and other conservatives by locking up the Supreme Court.

About the only thing Trump accomplished this year.  And likely reminded many on the Right why they put up with his boorishness and clown show.
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