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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

If you don’t understand that climate change does NOT threaten our existence I can’t inmake it any clearer than that.

What would convince you that it does threaten our existence?

How could it?

Increased sea level wipes out current coastal cities, destroying the global economy.

Is that your prediction based on what?

Increased heat causes current crop rotations to fail, while happening too fast for ready transition to the new ones to accommodate the volume of agriculture we need.

All crops everywhere?  Not one scientist, as in NONE, ever predicted such a stupid scenario.

Shifting of climate zones causes "circle of life" in multiple regions to fail, eliminating most pollinating species, leading to further crop failure, dying off of fish in major zones, and other food sources.

LOL

Climate zone changes also move disease-born insects into regions where the animal life has no antibodies for them, potentially destroying the livestock that feeds many of us, whether chickens, pigs, or cows.

Avian flu and swine flu variants arrive, but with collapse of economy, CDC doesn't have the resources to construct a good counter to one or more such things.

Since you asked.

And you couldn’t answer. Save your life. Get off Twitter.

Also: "existential" for many people does not mean extinction of humanity, "merely" extinction of our current level of "civilization," which this could do all too easily.

You might want to try that one again. Because the above was pretty fucking stupid.

Again, Ward, what would convince you that this is a threat that is worth considering action to prevent?

Are you even paying attention ?

[facilitatorn]

Ward is telling you that he is a fucking arsonist and he wishes someone would lock him up and throw away the key.

[josh]

If you don’t understand that climate change does NOT threaten our existence I can’t inmake it any clearer than that.

What would convince you that it does threaten our existence?

How could it?

Increased sea level wipes out current coastal cities, destroying the global economy.

Is that your prediction based on what?

Increased heat causes current crop rotations to fail, while happening too fast for ready transition to the new ones to accommodate the volume of agriculture we need.

All crops everywhere?  Not one scientist, as in NONE, ever predicted such a stupid scenario.

Shifting of climate zones causes "circle of life" in multiple regions to fail, eliminating most pollinating species, leading to further crop failure, dying off of fish in major zones, and other food sources.

LOL

Climate zone changes also move disease-born insects into regions where the animal life has no antibodies for them, potentially destroying the livestock that feeds many of us, whether chickens, pigs, or cows.

Avian flu and swine flu variants arrive, but with collapse of economy, CDC doesn't have the resources to construct a good counter to one or more such things.

Since you asked.

And you couldn’t answer. Save your life. Get off Twitter.

Also: "existential" for many people does not mean extinction of humanity, "merely" extinction of our current level of "civilization," which this could do all too easily.

You might want to try that one again. Because the above was pretty fucking stupid.

Again, Ward, what would convince you that this is a threat that is worth considering action to prevent?

Are you even paying attention ?

You're an asshole who cannot read, cannot answer, and has pretensions of competence.

"Is that your prediction based on what?"

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/overview
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/sea-level-rise-may-not-become-catastrophic-until-after-2100/579478/
https://www.globalchange.gov/browse/multimedia/projected-sea-level-rise-and-flooding-2050

"All crops everywhere?"

No. How many have to collapse for it to cause major systemic problems?

"LOL"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heat-waves-are-causing-mass-fish-deaths-in-australia/
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/us/alaska-salmon-hot-water-trnd/index.html
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-07/uoc--fdl070519.php

LOL, indeed.

Yeah, I answered your question.

You answered mine, too.

You're so stuck with your chosen idiotic position that you cannot conceive of being wrong.

[josh]

Ward is telling you that he is a fucking arsonist and he wishes someone would lock him up and throw away the key.

Nah. He wishes people would get out of his way so he can go do the arson.

[REDSTATEWARD]

If you don’t understand that climate change does NOT threaten our existence I can’t inmake it any clearer than that.

What would convince you that it does threaten our existence?

How could it?

Increased sea level wipes out current coastal cities, destroying the global economy.

Is that your prediction based on what?

Increased heat causes current crop rotations to fail, while happening too fast for ready transition to the new ones to accommodate the volume of agriculture we need.

All crops everywhere?  Not one scientist, as in NONE, ever predicted such a stupid scenario.

Shifting of climate zones causes "circle of life" in multiple regions to fail, eliminating most pollinating species, leading to further crop failure, dying off of fish in major zones, and other food sources.

LOL

Climate zone changes also move disease-born insects into regions where the animal life has no antibodies for them, potentially destroying the livestock that feeds many of us, whether chickens, pigs, or cows.

Avian flu and swine flu variants arrive, but with collapse of economy, CDC doesn't have the resources to construct a good counter to one or more such things.

Since you asked.

And you couldn’t answer. Save your life. Get off Twitter.

Also: "existential" for many people does not mean extinction of humanity, "merely" extinction of our current level of "civilization," which this could do all too easily.

You might want to try that one again. Because the above was pretty fucking stupid.

Again, Ward, what would convince you that this is a threat that is worth considering action to prevent?

Are you even paying attention ?

You're an asshole who cannot read, cannot answer, and has pretensions of competence.

"Is that your prediction based on what?"

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/overview
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/sea-level-rise-may-not-become-catastrophic-until-after-2100/579478/
https://www.globalchange.gov/browse/multimedia/projected-sea-level-rise-and-flooding-2050

"All crops everywhere?"

No. How many have to collapse for it to cause major systemic problems?

"LOL"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heat-waves-are-causing-mass-fish-deaths-in-australia/
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/us/alaska-salmon-hot-water-trnd/index.html
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-07/uoc--fdl070519.php

LOL, indeed.

Yeah, I answered your question.

You answered mine, too.

You're so stuck with your chosen idiotic position that you cannot conceive of being wrong.

Suit yourself.

[bambu.]

Speaking of arsonists...

"Climate change is causing all those massive fires atm in Australia" is being shouted from the rooftops.

More like 12 yr old and teen arsonists.

[bambu.]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/dutton-labels-biloela-kids-anchor-babies/ar-AAHa2Be?li=AAgfLCP&OCID=AVRES000

Dutton labels Biloela kids 'anchor babies'


Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has referred to the children in a Tamil asylum-seeker family facing deportation as "anchor babies".
Mr Dutton said the family's long-running fight for Australian protection had cost taxpayers "literally millions of dollars".

"It's been made very clear to them at every turn that they were not going to stay in Australia and they still had children," Mr Dutton told 2GB radio on Thursday.
"We see that overseas in other countries - anchor babies, so-called - and the emotion of trying to leverage a migration outcome based on the children."

The Sri Lankan couple came separately to Australia by boat several years ago before marrying, having two children and settling in the central Queensland town of Biloela.
They are now in detention on Christmas Island as the Federal Court decides whether the youngest child is eligible for protection in Australia.

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This is what happens if asylum-seekers are allowed onshore.
Tis why asylum-seekers who attempt to get to Australia by boat will never be allowed onshore...will never be allowed to be settled in Australia even if deemed to be refugees.
...and are held in PNG and Nauru.

[facilitatorn]

Bambu makes a very strong argument against the personhood of any Australian. I won’t argue with him. Based on his posts, next time we should leave them to be conquered by their invaders for the good of humanity and the planet.

[josh]

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-fails-redact-document-reveals-location-urban-warfare-training-facility-1458732?__twitter_impression=true&amp=1&fbclid=IwAR332wXBFVYsXHRIXtnszuNeRJyqQtU8k0PRqqRCRQgqc86id3_rzBcMbrk

That they have an urban warfare training facility is pretty disturbing.

That they cannot redact their documents well enough to keep its location a secret is troubling, given they have charge of the site.

[josh]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/samoa-prime-minister-climate-change_n_5b8bb947e4b0511db3d98cb4?sfns=mo&fbclid=IwAR0oSsLPGft7NN3EWj4COd4BAptWvYx1SnYWxPbWhl3S6Uf4rfv24tNWAUk

"Leaders who deny climate change are stupid."

So, too, posters.

That's whether they deny it is caused by humans, deny that it is a significant threat to our way of life, or deny that we can and should do something about it.

[josh]

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/11/759523615/guant-namo-court-and-prison-have-cost-billions-whistleblower-alleges-gross-waste?utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0krHK8jyum30tIdGylI3UovMckBvO69Pt7jiSUUxRnkvL1mO2VWJXa5hk

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2019/09/11/we-forgot-the-lessons-of-9-11-osama-bin-laden-would-love-trump/

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59n9x3/trump-wants-to-ban-flavored-vaping-products-but-not-ar-15s-assault-weapons

[NeedsAdjustments]

If you don’t understand that climate change does NOT threaten our existence I can’t make it any clearer than that.

What would convince you that it does threaten our existence?

A pointless question.

When asked what proof he had that Republicans are taking the threats posed by climate change seriously, his answer was, essentially, they are lowering taxes on the rich.

This isn't someone trying to have a good faith conversation.

[REDSTATEWARD]

If you don’t understand that climate change does NOT threaten our existence I can’t make it any clearer than that.

What would convince you that it does threaten our existence?

A pointless question.

When asked what proof he had that Republicans are taking the threats posed by climate change seriously, his answer was, essentially, they are lowering taxes on the rich.

This isn't someone trying to have a good faith conversation.

According to the latest accounting statistics the democrat presidential candidates’ bids to “save the planet”  run from a LOW of 3$Trillion(Warren) to a HIGH of $16 trillion(Sanders).
But NEEDs insists on a “ good faith conversation”!
LOL

Tonight’s edition of the dem Follies should be a real hoot!
 

Meanwhile,
The American economy is the envy of the world: record employment that has lifted all boats with consumers spending leading the way, the result of lower taxes and higher wages.