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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

It's the Washington Examiner, a RW propaganda outlet.  Famous for unsupported claims like the anonymous border rancher who found prayer rugs.  Owned by Christian conservative billionaire Phil Anschutz.   Trump laps this junk journalism up.

Lines like "The leading indicator of gun sales jumped in August, driven in part by Americans seeking self-protection and deep concerns congressional Democrats are going to push through expanded gun control legislation..." are speculation, and no factual basis is offered beyond quotes that are all from gun sellers.   It's a slanted report which is thinly disguised as straight news.

What facts are wrong? Are you seriously arguing that mass shootings do NOT result in increased gun sales? https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
Do you seriously think political promises to ban or buy back guns don’t cause gun sales to immediately increase?

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any).   From the facts presented we have no way of knowing whether the average new buyer is more concerned about immigrant boogeymen or Democrats who are imagined as taking away guns from legitimate owners.   The article makes assumptions not warranted.

The “article” made no assumptions. It referenced observations by those whose professions areselling or marketing guns.  You don’t like those observations? Fine. Then read only the Washington Post who just ignores the story altogether.

[Hairy Lime]

Don't gun sales always rise in August in anticipation of hunting season?   No hunter wants to be seen in the field armed with an out-dated killing machine.

Jim lied. He doesn't live on the coast.

In Cleveland, they call the Lake Erie shoreline the north coast. Great for surfing.

I am sure they also do in Toledo, Port Clinton, Vermillion, and Ashtabula.  Does being 120 miles away count as living on the "Coast" ?

I consider anything west of Yuma the coast, so don't go by me.

[Hairy Lime]

I would call those that are deplorable, deplorable.  Just like HRC did.

Red is.very proud of claiming HRC called him deplorable,  but has never indicated which of "racist, sexist, homophobic,  xenophobic, Islamaphobic" or some combination thereof he is.

[Yankguy1]

I would call those that are deplorable, deplorable.  Just like HRC did.

Red is.very proud of claiming HRC called him deplorable,  but has never indicated which of "racist, sexist, homophobic,  xenophobic, Islamaphobic" or some combination thereof he is.

Yep. And Red's not Luee, Kidd or Bambu, and I don't think he's any of those things, which kind of destroys his narrative that HRC called all her political opponents "deplorables." 

[barton]

It's the Washington Examiner, a RW propaganda outlet.  Famous for unsupported claims like the anonymous border rancher who found prayer rugs.  Owned by Christian conservative billionaire Phil Anschutz.   Trump laps this junk journalism up.

Lines like "The leading indicator of gun sales jumped in August, driven in part by Americans seeking self-protection and deep concerns congressional Democrats are going to push through expanded gun control legislation..." are speculation, and no factual basis is offered beyond quotes that are all from gun sellers.   It's a slanted report which is thinly disguised as straight news.

What facts are wrong? Are you seriously arguing that mass shootings do NOT result in increased gun sales? https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
Do you seriously think political promises to ban or buy back guns don’t cause gun sales to immediately increase?

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any).   From the facts presented we have no way of knowing whether the average new buyer is more concerned about immigrant boogeymen or Democrats who are imagined as taking away guns from legitimate owners.   The article makes assumptions not warranted.

The “article” made no assumptions. It referenced observations by those whose professions areselling or marketing guns.  You don’t like those observations? Fine. Then read only the Washington Post who just ignores the story altogether.

The article assumed that the spike was due to fears of a liberal gun grab.  And only solicited quotes from sources who, because they profit from guns and fearmongering, are not a source of objective information.  You still haven't produced any information to support the assumption that a rise in gun purchases is due to one simple reason.  I will repeat the portion of my reply you seem to have trouble absorbing:

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any). 

I bolded the tricky part. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

It's the Washington Examiner, a RW propaganda outlet.  Famous for unsupported claims like the anonymous border rancher who found prayer rugs.  Owned by Christian conservative billionaire Phil Anschutz.   Trump laps this junk journalism up.

Lines like "The leading indicator of gun sales jumped in August, driven in part by Americans seeking self-protection and deep concerns congressional Democrats are going to push through expanded gun control legislation..." are speculation, and no factual basis is offered beyond quotes that are all from gun sellers.   It's a slanted report which is thinly disguised as straight news.

What facts are wrong? Are you seriously arguing that mass shootings do NOT result in increased gun sales? https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
Do you seriously think political promises to ban or buy back guns don’t cause gun sales to immediately increase?

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any).   From the facts presented we have no way of knowing whether the average new buyer is more concerned about immigrant boogeymen or Democrats who are imagined as taking away guns from legitimate owners.   The article makes assumptions not warranted.

The “article” made no assumptions. It referenced observations by those whose professions areselling or marketing guns.  You don’t like those observations? Fine. Then read only the Washington Post who just ignores the story altogether.

The article assumed that the spike was due to fears of a liberal gun grab.  And only solicited quotes from sources who, because they profit from guns and fearmongering, are not a source of objective information.  You still haven't produced any information to support the assumption that a rise in gun purchases is due to one simple reason.  I will repeat the portion of my reply you seem to have trouble absorbing:

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any). 

I bolded the tricky part.

LOL.
Well your self- proclaimed raison d’etre is scouring the world for bias.
Even if you have to make it up.

[luee]

The Supreme Court has delivered a devastating blow to the US asylum system
The justices effectively blocked asylum claims at the southern border, for now.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/12/20861765/supreme-court-ruling-asylum-rule-southern-border

oh no, deplorable some say! About time say many.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/trump-illegal-immigration-costs-the-us-over-300b-a-year

[oilcan]

What's truly LOL-worthy is someone believing the Washington Examiner is NOT a heavily biased slop-bucket of right-wing innuendo.

[facilitatorn]

Grand Jury slaps down any prosecution of McCabe. Appeals court says emoluments case can go forward against Individual 1. CREW says trump can keep one of his withered testes if he divests from trump org and stops stealing more money. Since he won’t, they’re coming for the pair.

Trump judicial appointees should be held in cages without papers, contact with others, or cleaning supplies until “we can figure out what the hell is going on”. It serves them right since they are trying make slavery the American way again. This goes right through the Supreme Court.   

[luee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq9nDZOtwSE

Related to immigration?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYCbdQ2uF8c

[josh]

It's the Washington Examiner, a RW propaganda outlet.  Famous for unsupported claims like the anonymous border rancher who found prayer rugs.  Owned by Christian conservative billionaire Phil Anschutz.   Trump laps this junk journalism up.

Lines like "The leading indicator of gun sales jumped in August, driven in part by Americans seeking self-protection and deep concerns congressional Democrats are going to push through expanded gun control legislation..." are speculation, and no factual basis is offered beyond quotes that are all from gun sellers.   It's a slanted report which is thinly disguised as straight news.

What facts are wrong? Are you seriously arguing that mass shootings do NOT result in increased gun sales? https://law.stanford.edu/press/gun-sales-us-spike-mass-shootings/
Do you seriously think political promises to ban or buy back guns don’t cause gun sales to immediately increase?

It's the slant in phrases like "fears of a liberal gun grab " or "deep concerns Congressional Democrats are going to push through..."  It's the selection of facts and phrases.   I wasn't saying gun sales didn't spike.   But the phrasing is biased, and no research is cited to show what specific reasons gun purchasers are giving (if any).   From the facts presented we have no way of knowing whether the average new buyer is more concerned about immigrant boogeymen or Democrats who are imagined as taking away guns from legitimate owners.   The article makes assumptions not warranted.

The “article” made no assumptions. It referenced observations by those whose professions areselling or marketing guns.  You don’t like those observations? Fine. Then read only the Washington Post who just ignores the story altogether.

I sure hope you don't teach anymore.

Assumptions are embedded in choice of topic, in choice of interview subjects, in phraseology, in specific publications.

And you mean the way you persitently ignore the corruption of the current administration and their treatment of the children? Their violation of law? Their security breaches? Or the racism and corruption of the current GOP, in general and specifically in North Carolina?

No, WaPo is not nearly as good at ignoring entire stories as you are.

[josh]

Fear has become the number 1 sales technique in Corporate America.

When was it not?

[LarryBnDC]

Fear has become the number 1 sales technique in Corporate America.

When was it not?

Used to be sex...

[facilitatorn]

“Tax cheat” and “syphilitic worm” are terms that best capture that individual and his illustrious career.

[Hairy Lime]

Fear has become the number 1 sales technique in Corporate America.

When was it not?

Used to be sex...

There's a difference?