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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-ad-telegraphs-plan-to-protect-trump-against-pelosi-in-impeachment-fight

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The President’s decision to abandon our Kurd allies in the face of an assault by Turkey is a betrayal. It says that America is an unreliable ally; it facilitates ISIS resurgence; and it presages another humanitarian disaster.

- Sen. Mitt Romney

Eh, but what does he know. I get my foreign policy and insights on geo-conflict dynamics from kiidcarter8, and he says its all gonna be fine.

[NeedsAdjustments]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-ad-telegraphs-plan-to-protect-trump-against-pelosi-in-impeachment-fight

Moscow Mitch has no idea what the impeachment inquiry will unearth (or maybe he does) but he has signaled that he will not allow the "president" to be impeached regardless.

That, folks, is the Senate Majority leader completely abandoning the Senate's constitutional obligation to conduct oversight and hold the executive branch accountable to our laws.

[NeedsAdjustments]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-ad-telegraphs-plan-to-protect-trump-against-pelosi-in-impeachment-fight

Moscow Mitch has no idea what the impeachment inquiry will unearth (or maybe he does) but he has signaled that he will not allow the "president" to be impeached regardless.

That, folks, is the Senate Majority leader completely abandoning the Senate's constitutional obligation to conduct oversight and hold the executive branch accountable to our laws.

And that Moscow Mitch can successfully fund raise off of "I will protect Trump no matter how corrupt and lawless he turns out to be" says really all that needs be said about the "president's" supporters.

[josh]

Capitalism married with Judeo/Christian ethics is a very, very good thing.

In all of human history, no other system has lifted more people out of poverty and into the ranks of the middle class and beyond. 
Excellent piece.  Thank you, Ms Duffy

You've been shown this before, when you have waved your bogus jingoistic flag:

America sucks when it comes to upward mobility, when it comes to enabling folks to move up in economic/social class. We are among the worst of the so-called developed nations at this.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/02/14/americans-overestimate-social-mobility-in-their-country


https://www.forbes.com/sites/aparnamathur/2018/07/16/the-u-s-does-poorly-on-yet-another-metric-of-economic-mobility/#42728c396a7b

Using data from a new Global Database of Intergenerational Mobility (GDIM) and comparing developing countries to high-income countries, the gap in absolute mobility appears to have narrowed. Using the 1980s cohort for both sets of countries, the Global database shows that 57 percent of children in high-income countries “out-learned” their parents. The corresponding number for the developing countries was 47 percent. This gap is nearly 10 percentage points lower than it was for the 1940s cohort for each group of countries. So absolute mobility appears to be converging.

But the problem is the reason for the convergence. The gap is narrowing not because developing economies are doing better today than they did before, but, in fact, because high-income economies are doing much worse than they were doing earlier. In addition, progress in mobility has stagnated at a much lower level of educational attainment for developing economies than for the average high income economy. Developing economies today have levels of educational attainment that are similar to where high income countries were 40 years ago. Even within developing economies, there is a great deal of variance. For the 1980s birth cohort, the study finds that only 12 percent of adults had more education than their parents in Sub-Saharan Africa, relative to more than 80 percent of adults of that same generation in the East Asia region.
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So what does the picture look like for the US? We know from work done by Raj Chetty and others using income to measure mobility, that absolute upward economic mobility has been declining since the 1940s. For children born in the 1940s, more than 90 percent were earning more than their parents. Today, that number has dropped to 50 percent. The figure below documents that decline.

Doing a similar analysis using the new World Bank data for educational mobility for the U.S., there is an unfortunate similarity. The chart below shows the average probability that a child in a particular birth cohort will attain higher education credentials than their parents.  In the 1940s, the average probability was close to 70 percent. For the 1980s cohort, that number has dropped to below 45 percent.

In addition, the probability that kids with parents from the bottom half of the education ranks will  “out-learn” their parents and reach the top education quartile is shown below. This probability, known as the poverty-to-privilege rate, has been declining over time as well.
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The U.S. is one of only four high income economies amongst 50 economies with the lowest rates of relative upward mobility.

[barton]

Capitalism married with Judeo/Christian ethics is a very, very good thing.

In all of human history, no other system has lifted more people out of poverty and into the ranks of the middle class and beyond.  And no country has done a better job than the United States of America to secure the freedom of its citizens to work hard, prosper and achieve their American Dream.



Excellent piece.  Thank you, Ms Duffy

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/rachel-campos-duffy-teaching-kids-dangers-socialism

It would have been even more excellent if she had addressed the apparent contradiction to "no country has done a better job" if she had mentioned nations using the Nordic Model, et al.  I'll leave you with this clip from the article on Democratic Socialism in wikipedia:

The United Nations' World Happiness Report shows that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe, where the Nordic model—which democratic socialists want to strengthen against austerity and neoliberalism—is employed, with the list being topped by Denmark, where the Social Democrats led their first government in 1924, then through the 1930s and 1940s until 1947, then again from 1953 until 1966, in 1971, from 1975 until 1981, from 1994 to 2001, from 2011 to 2015 and finally since 2019. This is at times attributed to the success of the Nordic model in the region, where similar democratic socialist, labour and social democratic parties dominated the political scene and laid the ground to their universalistic welfare states in the 20th century. The Nordic countries, including Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden as well as Greenland and the Faroe Islands, also ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, economic equality, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and human development.[236][237] Likewise, countries adopting similar policies have ranked high on indicators such as civil liberties,[238] democracy,[239] press,[240] labour and economic freedoms,[241] peace[242] and freedom from corruption.[243]

Damn, don't you just hate it when facts get in the way of making a nice tidy generalization?

[facilitatorn]

Someone should teach this nimrod the difference between crime and capitalism. He only seems to know and do the former

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/steven-mnuchin-trump-corruption-still-happening.html

Maybe his future cell mate will help him...

[kiidcarter8]

The President’s decision to abandon our Kurd allies in the face of an assault by Turkey is a betrayal. It says that America is an unreliable ally; it facilitates ISIS resurgence; and it presages another humanitarian disaster.

- Sen. Mitt Romney

Eh, but what does he know. I get my foreign policy and insights on geo-conflict dynamics from kiidcarter8, and he says its all gonna be fine.

Been going on for 3 decades

Situation can never really be "fine".  BETTER?  Well.... wait and see.

What would you have had us do with the ISIS combatants that are currently prisoners?   Watch over them til their deaths?

[Yankguy1]

As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over...

There used to be a time when we had to pay money to hear a comedian's monologue.

[kiidcarter8]

Capitalism married with Judeo/Christian ethics is a very, very good thing.

In all of human history, no other system has lifted more people out of poverty and into the ranks of the middle class and beyond.  And no country has done a better job than the United States of America to secure the freedom of its citizens to work hard, prosper and achieve their American Dream.



Excellent piece.  Thank you, Ms Duffy

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/rachel-campos-duffy-teaching-kids-dangers-socialism

It would have been even more excellent if she had addressed the apparent contradiction to "no country has done a better job" if she had mentioned nations using the Nordic Model, et al.  I'll leave you with this clip from the article on Democratic Socialism in wikipedia:

The United Nations' World Happiness Report shows that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe, where the Nordic model—which democratic socialists want to strengthen against austerity and neoliberalism—is employed, with the list being topped by Denmark, where the Social Democrats led their first government in 1924, then through the 1930s and 1940s until 1947, then again from 1953 until 1966, in 1971, from 1975 until 1981, from 1994 to 2001, from 2011 to 2015 and finally since 2019. This is at times attributed to the success of the Nordic model in the region, where similar democratic socialist, labour and social democratic parties dominated the political scene and laid the ground to their universalistic welfare states in the 20th century. The Nordic countries, including Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden as well as Greenland and the Faroe Islands, also ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, economic equality, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and human development.[236][237] Likewise, countries adopting similar policies have ranked high on indicators such as civil liberties,[238] democracy,[239] press,[240] labour and economic freedoms,[241] peace[242] and freedom from corruption.[243]

Damn, don't you just hate it when facts get in the way of making a nice tidy generalization?

In fact, almost everything the American left has told us about economic, immigration and social policy there is 180 degrees out of phase with Scandinavian reality.

If liberal Democrats wish to import what they perceive to be successful Scandinavian policies, rather than treat their social practices as menu items, why not include border and criminal enforcement, deportations, personal responsibility and assimilation?





https://www.ldnews.com/story/opinion/2019/03/18/immigration-policy-scandinavian-model/3200340002/

[kiidcarter8]

Mitch has no idea what the impeachment inquiry will unearth (or maybe he does)

I believe he does - and that's the point

Disagreement on policy is not proper grounds to remove a president.


Further -

On West Wing, Bartlett accepted a censure.  Would you be Ok with this re:  Trump?

[NeedsAdjustments]

The President’s decision to abandon our Kurd allies in the face of an assault by Turkey is a betrayal. It says that America is an unreliable ally; it facilitates ISIS resurgence; and it presages another humanitarian disaster.

- Sen. Mitt Romney

Eh, but what does he know. I get my foreign policy and insights on geo-conflict dynamics from kiidcarter8, and he says its all gonna be fine.

Been going on for 3 decades

Situation can never really be "fine".  BETTER?  Well.... wait and see.

What would you have had us do with the ISIS combatants that are currently prisoners?   Watch over them til their deaths?

Please don’t insult our intelligence by presenting this as some calculated approach to how to deal with captured ISIS enemy combatants.  It is not.  It’s an unintended consequence of an ill-considered policy. 

I don’t personally know what the options are, but I have 100% confidence that just releasing 10,000 of them in an active combat region where they could rejoin the forces we are fighting is the very worst of them.

In any other context you would be saying yes, of course it’s completely nuts to just let ISIS enemy combatants go free.  But because its related to something Trump is doing you will defend it.  And as always I have to wonder who the audience is for your blind and ignorant obsequiousness.  Even if Trump knew about this forum, we know he doesn’t read.

[kiidcarter8]

I don’t personally know what the options are, but I have 100% confidence that just releasing 10,000 of them in an active combat region where they could rejoin the forces we are fighting is the very worst of them.


You say you dont know, yet act as if you do

[Yankguy1]

I don’t personally know what the options are, but I have 100% confidence that just releasing 10,000 of them in an active combat region where they could rejoin the forces we are fighting is the very worst of them.


You say you dont know, yet act as if you do

Wow.  Kid takes great pride in not arguing here.  And then proceeds to make the most idiotic arguments this side of the White House.  Great work.   

[NeedsAdjustments]

I don’t personally know what the options are, but I have 100% confidence that just releasing 10,000 of them in an active combat region where they could rejoin the forces we are fighting is the very worst of them.


You say you dont know, yet act as if you do

Wow.  Kid takes great pride in not arguing here.  And then proceeds to make the most idiotic arguments this side of the White House.  Great work.

Not even the White House would be stupid enough to argue that this is simply the best option for dealing with captured enemy forces and potential terrorists.

Again, who does kiidcarter8 think is the audience here for this trash?