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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-impeachment-articles-marie-yovanovitch.html?fbclid=IwAR0JdVDfRMtAwy6bNKTdUr5T3dO4BodlM2R6N9dWa4wPS-1LsUYCvrDXxXE

Trump's removal of Yovanovitch is enough for impeachment, by itself.

What’s taking Nancy so long?

She is.letting Schiff do a good, thorough job so that if impeachment is necessary it is based upon a complete investigation, strong and unassailable evidence and the reasoned and fact based decision of House members. The country deserves no less.

Then it is past time to conduct the investigation the country deserves. Not with Adam Schiff  and his make-it-up-as -we-roll- along attitude.  This “process” of secrecy in trying to overturn the results of an election will not end well for the democrats. But I can see why they don’t want transparency. That did not work out for them trying to prove collusion and obstruction.

Bullshit.

Have a seat.

[bankshot1]

In other words,.conducted in the same manner as the Republicans conducted the Clinton impeachment and Benghazi investigation. Got it.


Quite untrue that Gingrich acted in same manner as Schiff

While Saint Newt was demonizing Clinton for lieing about a blow job, he was cheating on his cancer-stricken wife.

and we all know when Saint Newt didn't get his way he just closed the government for business, hurting most Americans.

sadly a real Republican role model.

You're right schiff doesn't act in the same way as the real piece of shit in your idiotic comp.

[NeedsAdjustments]

kiidcarter8 is all up in arms about the unfairness of the Constitutional process being used to investigate Trump ....


Nah - not really

Is what it is.

Thank you, Mr Graham

“We cannot allow future presidents and this president to be impeached based on an inquiry in the House that’s never been voted upon that does not allow the president to confront the witnesses against him, to call witnesses on his behalf, and cross-examine people who are accusing him of misdeeds,” he added.

kiidcarter8 is fine with a former Vice President and potential Presidential Candidate to have his political career flushed based on an inquiry conducted in the shadows of the Ukrainian justice system that has never been voted upon that does not allow the former vice president to confront the witnesses against him, to call witnesses on his behalf, and cross-examine people who are accusing him of misdeeds.

High Irony is that trump & Co. have called the fully constitutional investigation of him "Soviet Style" but he would have Biden investigated in Ukraine!  Literally!

[NeedsAdjustments]

In other words,.conducted in the same manner as the Republicans conducted the Clinton impeachment and Benghazi investigation. Got it.


Quite untrue that Gingrich acted in same manner as Schiff

It was actually Graham that conducted the closed sessions on Clinton.

[LarryBnDC]

In other words,.conducted in the same manner as the Republicans conducted the Clinton impeachment and Benghazi investigation. Got it.


Quite untrue that Gingrich acted in same manner as Schiff

Nah. Gingrich was actually full of shit.

[LarryBnDC]

In other words,.conducted in the same manner as the Republicans conducted the Clinton impeachment and Benghazi investigation. Got it.


Quite untrue that Gingrich acted in same manner as Schiff

While Saint Newt was demonizing Clinton for lieing about a blow job, he was cheating on his cancer-stricken wife.

and we all know when Saint Newt didn't get his way he just closed the government for business, hurting most Americans.

sadly a real Republican role model.

You're right schiff doesn't act in the same way as the real piece of shit in your idiotic comp.

And he closed the government because he was pissed about his seating on Air Force One.

[NeedsAdjustments]

First, "Information on the Biden's gotten through whatever means" is of course very problematic as you have no idea how or who is providing that "info" and how accurate it is. 


Is the Biden info (is the claim that it is) inaccurate?

That is always weaker than, "yeah, I did it - get over it"

So you would say that AG Barr crisscrossing the globe trying to prove the Russia info inaccurate is weak?  And yet you seem to support the effort.

The basis for Giuliani's conspiracy theory on Ukraine is info from the former prosecutor Biden had fired.  The same prosecutor who Democrats and Republicans and our European allies and the IMF etc all agreed was too corrupt to do his job.  And someone who might be a little biased against the former Vice President.

But its all good to you.  Doesn't matter where the info comes from, right?  And questioning its accuracy would be just weak.

And you would have the very same opinion if this wasn't info that would be useful to Trump's reelection.

Nope  You are 100% unbiased.

[barton]

You guys are being trolled.  Anyone with an open mind can see that these hearings are no different from other congressional hearings, with closed-door factfinding (especially important, so that witnesses can't in some cases "get their stories to match" in advance, and in some cases protect witnesses from tampering and intimidation) and members of both parties given equal time to question witnesses.  This idiot troll has gotten nearly every one here to point out the same things, post citations, quote constitutional scholars, quote Republicans of hearings past, and then point it out again.  The troll strategy is to wear you down until you just don't fucking care any more.  And why should you - you're trying to establish contact with a closed mind.   

[NeedsAdjustments]

kiidcarter8 is all up in arms about the unfairness of the Constitutional process being used to investigate Trump ....


Nah - not really

Is what it is.

Thank you, Mr Graham

“We cannot allow future presidents and this president to be impeached based on an inquiry in the House that’s never been voted upon that does not allow the president to confront the witnesses against him, to call witnesses on his behalf, and cross-examine people who are accusing him of misdeeds,” he added.

kiidcarter8 is fine with a former Vice President and potential Presidential Candidate to have his political career flushed based on an inquiry conducted in the shadows of the Ukrainian justice system that has never been voted upon that does not allow the former vice president to confront the witnesses against him, to call witnesses on his behalf, and cross-examine people who are accusing him of misdeeds.

High Irony is that trump & Co. have called the fully constitutional investigation of him "Soviet Style" but he would have Biden investigated in Ukraine!  Literally!

Its simple.  If Trump thinks the Bidens engaged in corrupt dealing, have his AG investigate it.

We know Barr would have no problems doing that.

But he has to go to Ukraine?  Fully on the level...says the Trumpist.

[LarryBnDC]

You guys are being trolled.  Anyone with an open mind can see that these hearings are no different from other congressional hearings, with closed-door factfinding (especially important, so that witnesses can't in some cases "get their stories to match" in advance, and in some cases protect witnesses from tampering and intimidation) and members of both parties given equal time to question witnesses.  This idiot troll has gotten nearly every one here to point out the same things, post citations, quote constitutional scholars, quote Republicans of hearings past, and then point it out again.  The troll strategy is to wear you down until you just don't fucking care any more.  And why should you - you're trying to establish contact with a closed mind.   

[NeedsAdjustments]

You guys are being trolled.  Anyone with an open mind can see that these hearings are no different from other congressional hearings, with closed-door factfinding (especially important, so that witnesses can't in some cases "get their stories to match" in advance, and in some cases protect witnesses from tampering and intimidation) and members of both parties given equal time to question witnesses.  This idiot troll has gotten nearly every one here to point out the same things, post citations, quote constitutional scholars, quote Republicans of hearings past, and then point it out again.  The troll strategy is to wear you down until you just don't fucking care any more.  And why should you - you're trying to establish contact with a closed mind.   

America is being trolled by the idiots the Trumpists here are parroting.  This is what the GOP is essentially now...a troll farm clogging our airwaves with pure bad faith bullshit, all in the service of breaking our Democracy.

Putin is enjoying every minute of this:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/24/1894856/-Russian-state-TV-laughs-at-GOP-Without-us-they-can-t-elect-a-president

[Hairy Lime]

In other words,.conducted in the same manner as the Republicans conducted the Clinton impeachment and Benghazi investigation. Got it.


Quite untrue that Gingrich acted in same manner as Schiff

Gingrich was not head of the committee investigating Clinton. The rules Schiff is following are the rules approved by Republicans for investigations. But since neither you nor kiid can defend on the facts, you attack the process.

Questions are asked in turn by staff counsel for both parties, given equal time blocks. The 47 Republicans on the various committees (some of whom participated in yesterday's charade) are allowed to ask all the questions they want. There has been no claim that Schiff has failed to allow witnesses favorable to Trump to testify. There has been no claim that he has failed to allow Republican questioning. Claims of an unfair process are a desperate attempt to defend what they know is indefensible.

Really, I think the last thing Repuicans want is for the testimony to actually be in public.

[kiidcarter8]

https://twitter.com/Cocoa_Bean10/status/1187779380761767937

heh

[kiidcarter8]

Putin is enjoying every minute of this:


So fucking what?

[kiidcarter8]

kiidcarter8 is fine with a former Vice President and potential Presidential Candidate to have his political career flushed based on an inquiry conducted in the shadows of the Ukrainian justice system that has never been voted upon that does not allow the former vice president to confront the witnesses against him, to call witnesses on his behalf, and cross-examine people who are accusing him of misdeeds.


Come on, bro - that's a small part of it