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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22470 on: October 25, 2019, 05:18:01 PM »

First, "Information on the Biden's gotten through whatever means" is of course very problematic as you have no idea how or who is providing that "info" and how accurate it is. 


Is the Biden info (is the claim that it is) inaccurate?

That is always weaker than, "yeah, I did it - get over it"

There is no Biden info, Kid. There are allegations from Giuliani, Trump, et al. There is no evidence to support the allegations. There is no direct testimony to support it, either.

This was and is all a red herring to try to tarnish Joe Biden anyway the President could find to do it.
There are also no allegations to support the allegations. No official in Ukraine raised an issue regarding Hunter Biden - all of the corruption allegations predate his involvement - or Joe Biden.
LOL

Giuliani's allegation is based on info from the fired Ukrainian prosecutor.  You think there is any rational reason to lend credibility to this when this sourcing is obviously biased, and zero evidence has emerged to suggest any wrongdoing, let alone illegality?

No one would be spending five seconds on this if it wasn't useful to Trump politically.
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« Reply #22471 on: October 25, 2019, 05:23:10 PM »

First, "Information on the Biden's gotten through whatever means" is of course very problematic as you have no idea how or who is providing that "info" and how accurate it is. 


Is the Biden info (is the claim that it is) inaccurate?

That is always weaker than, "yeah, I did it - get over it"

There is no Biden info, Kid. There are allegations from Giuliani, Trump, et al. There is no evidence to support the allegations. There is no direct testimony to support it, either.

This was and is all a red herring to try to tarnish Joe Biden anyway the President could find to do it.
There are also no allegations to support the allegations. No official in Ukraine raised an issue regarding Hunter Biden - all of the corruption allegations predate his involvement - or Joe Biden.
LOL

Giuliani's allegation is based on info from the fired Ukrainian prosecutor.  You think there is any rational reason to lend credibility to this when this sourcing is obviously biased, and zero evidence has emerged to suggest any wrongdoing, let alone illegality?

No one would be spending five seconds on this if it wasn't useful to Trump politically.

Trump comes out saying how good and above board this prosecutor was to make the case that he was only fired for looking into the company Biden is on the board of.

But we know that this is untrue.  Republicans are on record as advocating for this prosecutor's removal due to his corruption. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/gop-senators-echoed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html

So what is Trump's case based on?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22472 on: October 25, 2019, 05:26:21 PM »

Red & Kiid are coming to grips with the fact that Putin’s puppet, their beloved con, is bringing the entire republican apparatus, not just the party to a level of derision, shunning, legal and social harassment never before seen in this country since the Red Scare took down the communist party.

In 5 years, there will be the same number of registered republicans as there were registered communists by 1960.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22473 on: October 25, 2019, 05:37:25 PM »

Ruh roh ...


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/federal-judge-orders-justice-department-turn-over-mueller-grand-jury-n1072226?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma

Bad news for Trump is piling up. 

This is not trending toward "Oh, sorry, this whole Ukraine thing looked bad, but turns out everything Giuliani was doing was totally innocent.  Our bad."

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/25/rudy-giuliani-justice-department-057125
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« Reply #22474 on: October 25, 2019, 05:55:21 PM »

If he can avoid prison, Matt Gaetz could maybe get a job after this in Autozone or Walmart restocking shelves, or something in an Amazon fulfillment center. Something where he doesn’t have to talk much or really be seen by the general public.
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« Reply #22475 on: October 25, 2019, 05:59:35 PM »

As a follow up to Pompeo being asked real questions by a reporter who clearly understands that he is the living embodiment of a piece of shit,

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vb5jkb/keep-heckling-harvey-weinstein

They’re all the same high class of people as congressional republicans who should all also be treated accordingly, with the exception of Will Hurd.
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« Reply #22476 on: October 25, 2019, 06:02:39 PM »

Homage to Leonardo Da Vinci......

You should turn that into an image people can download and use to plaster over pro-trump stuff. It’s a very telling idea. I hope you go for clean weighted lines which would help it pop and pick up at a distance.

Cool stuff.
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« Reply #22477 on: October 25, 2019, 07:13:28 PM »

Homage to Leonardo Da Vinci......

Ha! Money!

Speaking of money, one day Obama’s face is going to be on US legal tender.

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1187776244445638656?s=21
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« Reply #22478 on: October 25, 2019, 07:25:36 PM »

It's gone from one phone call to a whole pattern and conspiracy to withhold any assistance to Ukraine until the vulnerable new president did Trump's bidding.

Plus there's a whole sequence and array or obstruction -- from withholding documents, to not letting US employees testify in Congress.  Which can also be combined with the various obstruction efforts to thwart the Mueller/Russian probe.

So I see at least 2 articles of impeachment coming down.

A number of emoluments violations could also make up a 3rd charge, but I think the Dems want to keep things clear and simple.  They have to rely upon strong public support or the GOP Senate will vote against anything.

If the GOP realize they are doomed with Trump -- and he's going to start lashing out and acting more irrationally as his ship sinks -- then they might seize the opportunity to get rid of his toxic presence.
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« Reply #22479 on: October 25, 2019, 07:37:57 PM »

If the GOP realize they are doomed with Trump -- and he's going to start lashing out and acting more irrationally as his ship sinks -- then they might seize the opportunity to get rid of his toxic presence.

Every business relationship in Trumps life ends up badly. Every one.

Trump and Congressional Republicans will be no different.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22480 on: October 25, 2019, 07:51:20 PM »

She has given zero indication she is running


Eh....

Not so true, I'd say
Has she formed an exploratory committee? Raised money? Gone to the Iowa State Fair? She has done this twice on her own, and twice more with her husband. She knows what it takes to run.
Sure she does. Ownership of the DNC. That’s all she needs and what she has.
Once impeachment of Trump inevitably fails the dems are faced with a choice of socialist candidates who will be soundly rejected by general election voters. That leaves Hillary with Bernie heading to a Green Party Ticket .  Exit the democrat party as we know it and GOP rule for 2-3 more Presidential cycles.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22481 on: October 25, 2019, 07:58:24 PM »

There's no party in the United States known as the "democrat party," Dick Vitale.
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« Reply #22482 on: October 25, 2019, 08:25:07 PM »

She has given zero indication she is running


Eh....

Not so true, I'd say
Has she formed an exploratory committee? Raised money? Gone to the Iowa State Fair? She has done this twice on her own, and twice more with her husband. She knows what it takes to run. The only place she is thinking about running is in the fevered wet dreams of compulsive Hillary haters, people who think about her more than they think about food.and money combined, people who have had her living rent free in their heads for 28 years, like Red.

Sorry - thought you were on the other side of it.

Do you really think Warren gives you a better shot?
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« Reply #22483 on: October 25, 2019, 08:29:02 PM »

Homage to Leonardo Da Vinci......

Ha! Money!

Speaking of money, one day Obama’s face is going to be on US legal tender.

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1187776244445638656?s=21

If you doodle it.
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« Reply #22484 on: October 25, 2019, 08:31:51 PM »

First, "Information on the Biden's gotten through whatever means" is of course very problematic as you have no idea how or who is providing that "info" and how accurate it is. 


Is the Biden info (is the claim that it is) inaccurate?

That is always weaker than, "yeah, I did it - get over it"

There is no Biden info, Kid. There are allegations from Giuliani, Trump, et al. There is no evidence to support the allegations. There is no direct testimony to support it, either.

This was and is all a red herring to try to tarnish Joe Biden anyway the President could find to do it.

So that's a yes?
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