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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22620 on: October 29, 2019, 10:07:47 AM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-civil-war/trump-tweet-political-divisions-fuel-rising-discourse-about-new-u-s-civil-war-idUSKBN1X812B

Violent rhetoric about an impending civil war is on the rise, said J.J. MacNab, a fellow specializing in anti-government extremism at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism. “It used to be just the militia guys saying this stuff, and now it’s gone totally mainstream,” she said.

She pointed to a YouTube video posted in June that drew 1.4 million views. The video detailed how the electrical grid in “major leftist cities” could be taken down, and concluded that another civil war was inevitable and would be won by the right wing.


Youtube: America's Stupidity Amplifier.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22621 on: October 29, 2019, 10:11:54 AM »

Meanwhile, inquiring minds want to know how Ward feels about Donald Trump calling his GOP opponents (some of whom are not the Never Trump folks he claims they are) "human scum."

Is that a less negative term than "deplorables" or is it more negative?
The answer.to your question is, Red got a tax cut.
S and P in record territory along with continued long term gains in the Dow and NASDAQ. Hope you have been investing wisely.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22622 on: October 29, 2019, 10:20:43 AM »

So Nancy relents to GOP pressure and will call for a House vote to proceed with “ public” hearings in an impeachment process. What else could she do when her  critics have been right but she refused to concede their point?
So she throws MSNBC, CNN, and the NYTimes under the bus for her previous skip-the-vote stance.


Lindsay Graham takes a well deserved victory lap.
Heh. She just kicked away the last Republican defense.
LOL. Using secrecy to skirt responsible governing wasn’ t moving the political arrow toward impeachment. Pelosi is smart enough to realize that Adam Schiff behind locked hearing doors and selectively leaking would never turn 20 votes in the Senate.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22623 on: October 29, 2019, 10:24:01 AM »

The GOP just stands for responsible gov't. 
Sad the way it gets misunderstood . . .
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22625 on: October 29, 2019, 10:47:32 AM »

Investing wisely = rightwing code for putting your money into defense contractors and major polluters.

Maybe to look into the Moscow exchange as well ...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22626 on: October 29, 2019, 10:47:48 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22627 on: October 29, 2019, 11:51:09 AM »

So Nancy relents to GOP pressure and will call for a House vote to proceed with “ public” hearings in an impeachment process. What else could she do when her  critics have been right but she refused to concede their point?
So she throws MSNBC, CNN, and the NYTimes under the bus for her previous skip-the-vote stance.


Lindsay Graham takes a well deserved victory lap.
Heh. She just kicked away the last Republican defense.
LOL. Using secrecy to skirt responsible governing wasn’ t moving the political arrow toward impeachment. Pelosi is smart enough to realize that Adam Schiff behind locked hearing doors and selectively leaking would never turn 20 votes in the Senate.
What ever helps you sleep nights. But the process was the last defense, and it is gone. Enjoy attacking the character of Purple Heart vets.
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« Reply #22628 on: October 29, 2019, 12:18:04 PM »

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secrecy

LoL.  "Secrecy," as in bipartisan committees that released the opening statements of their witnesses every day.   What a pathetic pack of liars you all are.  47 House Republicans with access to all documents and depositions.  Some of whom didn't bother to show up. 

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« Reply #22629 on: October 29, 2019, 12:33:04 PM »

So Nancy relents to GOP pressure and will call for a House vote to proceed with “ public” hearings in an impeachment process. What else could she do when her  critics have been right but she refused to concede their point?
So she throws MSNBC, CNN, and the NYTimes under the bus for her previous skip-the-vote stance.


Lindsay Graham takes a well deserved victory lap.
Heh. She just kicked away the last Republican defense.
LOL. Using secrecy to skirt responsible governing wasn’ t moving the political arrow toward impeachment. Pelosi is smart enough to realize that Adam Schiff behind locked hearing doors and selectively leaking would never turn 20 votes in the Senate.

I think that it has become increasingly obvious that using that well-worn example, IF TRUMP SHOT SOMEONE ON 5TH AVENUE, that Perry Mason could not get 20 Republican Senators to convict him of anything.

The confidential collecting of depositions and evidence is entirely legit and as has been refernced before, has been used by the Republicans in the investigations they have led.

None the less the greater transparency of the the impeachment inquiry and the public hearings will educate Americans who will hopefully hear the case for, and the case against, and make a reasoned decision, not only on the president, but on the House and Senate.

IMO if the past is any predictor of the future, the Republican Trump enablers will be shown in a very poor light, but there will be enough light for the vast majority of Americans to see the Republicans for what they are, duplicitous cowards with no moral backbone to stand up to a corrupt and inept President who weakens us as a country every day.

Now Trump may not get convicted, after all finding 20 Republican senators with guts to do the right thing may be impossible, but the price may be extraordinarily high for Repubs, and I suspect they will come up very short when its time to pay it in November 2020.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22630 on: October 29, 2019, 12:46:24 PM »

Trump at 42% "strong disapprove"  (31 strong approve)

46% last week

Bagdhadi mattered

Overall high in office was 48

Overall low was 37


Approve-disapprove stands at 46-53, while 2 weeks ago was at 50-49
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22631 on: October 29, 2019, 01:36:02 PM »

Approve-disapprove stands at 46-53, while 2 weeks ago was at 50-49

Ukraine matters.

Giving Trump credit for a successful raid that happened despite the chaotic Syria pullout that almost sunk it (and his betraying and badmouthing of the allies that made it possible) is a bit like giving Trump credit for the markets despite his tariff policies that threaten it.

More an example of how Trump's malign influence can be overcome than his leadership actually leading to positive outcomes.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22632 on: October 29, 2019, 01:46:09 PM »

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LoL.  "Secrecy," as in bipartisan committees that released the opening statements of their witnesses every day.   What a pathetic pack of liars you all are.  47 House Republicans with access to all documents and depositions.  Some of whom didn't bother to show up.

Secrecy probably helping the GOP at this point, given that it seems they are spending most of their question time during these depositions trying to out the whistleblower, not raising any substantive counters to damning testimony.

But public testimony coming soon. 
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #22633 on: October 29, 2019, 01:50:54 PM »

Trump at 42% "strong disapprove"  (31 strong approve)

46% last week

Bagdhadi mattered

Overall high in office was 48

Overall low was 37


Approve-disapprove stands at 46-53, while 2 weeks ago was at 50-49

Approve-disapprove stands at 40.6-54.1. Nice try though. For republicans it’s worse than you think. For Americans they are better than you give them credit for as evidenced by our growing rejection of trump and all slimy republicans.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
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oilcan

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« Reply #22634 on: October 29, 2019, 01:54:29 PM »

  The White House can’t muster a substantive defense of President Donald Trump’s behavior regarding Ukraine. Democrats more or less gave way to Republican process complaints about impeachment on Monday. So with few other options left, Trump and his allies are returning to the mode that got him elected in the first place: toxic xenophobia... 

--David A. Graham, in The Atlantic

And don't forget massaging landline poll numbers, as if poll numbers have any power to alter damning facts. 
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