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Voting closed: November 03, 2019, 03:12:02 AM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23235 on: November 10, 2019, 09:24:52 PM »

Thanks for the link
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23237 on: November 10, 2019, 10:05:41 PM »

Haley is signaling hard that the Dems need to include questions of basic fitness into the impeachment hearings. She is signaling that it should be front and center. She is suggesting two witnesses to call. Basic fitness and soundness for office.

She’s really showing how to sometimes trump your way through the trump administration with an eye on your electoral future.

Makes me think in Haley’s current analysis not enough of the creeps she’s currently backstabbing are likely to have enough juice left when the dust settles to do her serious harm.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23238 on: November 11, 2019, 05:29:47 AM »

Sub-contracting your ethnic cleansing:

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Turkey launched a cross-border military offensive into neighboring Syria on Oct. 9...

Turkey essentially delegated the ground offensive to a proxy force, the "Syrian National Army", an umbrella group in northern Syria consisting of an assortment of rebel forces opposed to the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Many of the group’s factions, made up largely of Syrian Arab fighters, had already fought at Turkey’s behest in two previous military operations over the past three years.

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proxy forces backed by Ankara have been blamed for a growing ledger of abuses against the local population...

More than 200,000 people have been internally displaced by the Turkish-led offensive, according to the United Nations. Families that have been scattered across eastern Syria say that Turkey’s Syrian Arab proxies have carried out summary executions and beatings, kidnapped or detained their relatives and looted their houses, businesses and belongings.

So instead of using the more professional regular Turkish army.  Erdogan has used mercenary Syrians instead, many of whom are Sunni religious fanatics.  And they've taken the opportunity to loot, kill, and settle scores.  Since many view the Kurds as unbelievers who deserve death. 

Gee, what can go wrong ethnic cleansing Kurdish lands and bringing in fundamentalist Sunni holy warriors.  Turkey has long supported jihadist groups in Syria, including those aligned with Al Qaeda.  And since it's a patchwork of many different small zealot groups, accountability is minimal.

I don't think people understand enough that war is always awful, horrible, and full of severe human rights abuses.  And Trump enabled this, so he has blood on his hands now. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/filled-with-hatred-and-a-lust-for-blood-turkeys-proxy-army-in-northern-syria-accused-of-abusing-civilians/2019/11/09/345e2fd6-0175-11ea-8341-cc3dce52e7de_story.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23239 on: November 11, 2019, 09:52:23 AM »

thumbs up thingy
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23240 on: November 11, 2019, 09:55:22 AM »

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As Trump’s energy secretary, Perry has flown around the globe to push for U.S. exports of liquefied natural gas, which he calls “Freedom Gas.”
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heh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23241 on: November 11, 2019, 10:42:10 AM »

WaPo no bueno
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23243 on: November 11, 2019, 11:41:52 AM »

I simply stop the page from fully loading, so the paywall thingy doesn't drop down.  Sometimes takes 2 or 3 tries.
Seems to help to Load, then reload, then stop quickly.

Anywho, I quoted the most relevant parts.

It's clearly not the orderly process Turkey pretends it is.
And these extremist Sunni squatters are just going to be long-term trouble.  Assad and/or Russia, or most likely the Kurds, will have to deal them them at some point.  And there will be blowback in Turkey as well.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23244 on: November 11, 2019, 11:46:17 AM »

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As Trump’s energy secretary, Perry has flown around the globe to push for U.S. exports of liquefied natural gas, which he calls “Freedom Gas.”
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heh

I think the reason that the Trumpeters were upset with Hunter Biden is they worried that Perry's donors and buddies wouldn't get their share of corrupt Ukraine energy deals ...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23245 on: November 11, 2019, 12:01:45 PM »

Yes, what deal did Trump make with Erdogan?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23246 on: November 11, 2019, 12:07:49 PM »

Inquiry does not equal impeachment

But they seem to have their minds made up

Hard to say one way or the other, because nothing has come up during the inquiry that would argue against Trump having committed the impeachable offense that birthed it.  Just the opposite.

And more coming:

Not long before the Ukrainian president was inaugurated in May, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani’s journeyed to Kiev to deliver a warning to the country’s new leadership, a lawyer for the associate said.

The associate, Lev Parnas, told a representative of the incoming government that it had to announce an investigation into Mr. Trump’s political rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., and his son, or else Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the swearing-in of the new president, and the United States would freeze aid, the lawyer said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/nyregion/trump-ukraine-parnas-fruman.html

That the minds of everyone, Democrat and Republican, should be made up on the offense itself being impeachable should not be a question.   Any Republican who votes otherwise should face the consequences of that decision come time for their reelection.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23247 on: November 11, 2019, 12:16:45 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/politics/peter-king-retiring-congress/index.html

And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!

I will not miss Peter King's voice.

16 GOP and 5 Dem House members have announced they will not be up for reelection.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #23248 on: November 11, 2019, 12:27:05 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/11/09/trump-alabama-lsu-game-tuscaloosa-crowd-nr-vpx.cnn

Very different reception for the president at the LSU-Alabama game than at either the World Series or the UFC event (Kid's objections notwithstanding).

Though I understand some Alabama supporters changed their minds as a result of the game's outcome!
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« Reply #23249 on: November 11, 2019, 02:32:43 PM »

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/9/20956900/house-republicans-impeachment-inquiry-witness-hunter-biden-whistleblower-dnc
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https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rm_letter_to_chm_re_witness_request.pdf

Devon Archer, Burisma BoD member and Hunter Biden business partner
Hunter Biden
Alexandra Chalupa, former Democratic National Committee contractor - part of the conspiracy theory about the Clinton server
Nellie Ohr, former contractor for research firm Fusion GPS - because of the false equating of Clinton's hiring of Fusion to Trump's bribery efforts
Tim Morrison, former top White House aide for Europe and Russia policy - already heard in private, the GOP wants this Vindman boss heard on the same panel as Vindman, not each by themselves, in the hope that Morrison will manage to undo Vindman's testimony.
 -------> based on what I know of what Morrison said to the Committees, I think they are foolish to want him, but I think he will be called.
David Hale, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs - for his knowledge on the removal of Yovanovich, about which he testified in private. I don't see how he helps the GOP's cause.
Kurt Volker, former US special representative to Ukraine - another who testified in private and whom I would be surprised to have exclused from the public testimony.

and of course they want the whistleblower, for all that they claim it was all r2nd hand and it has all be corroborated by first hand accounts.

There is no good reason to force him to testify.
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