Total Members Voted: 9
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Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 06:01:08 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.And it could be added (because I've just looked it up) that those torture memos were repudiated by the OLC after they were less than a few years old, and are no longer used as guidance. A 2009 report by the Office for Professional Responsibility re: his approval of waterboarding techniques accused Yoo of committing "intentional professional misconduct" and recommended he be disbarred.LOL Those “ torture memos” according to NEEDS are the only criteria permissible to judge John Yoo’s credibility as a National Security Expert.Do you actually read anybody else's posts? Or do you just do Cliffs Notes? Which for a self-styled educator would be kind of lazy.
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.And it could be added (because I've just looked it up) that those torture memos were repudiated by the OLC after they were less than a few years old, and are no longer used as guidance. A 2009 report by the Office for Professional Responsibility re: his approval of waterboarding techniques accused Yoo of committing "intentional professional misconduct" and recommended he be disbarred.LOL Those “ torture memos” according to NEEDS are the only criteria permissible to judge John Yoo’s credibility as a National Security Expert.
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.And it could be added (because I've just looked it up) that those torture memos were repudiated by the OLC after they were less than a few years old, and are no longer used as guidance. A 2009 report by the Office for Professional Responsibility re: his approval of waterboarding techniques accused Yoo of committing "intentional professional misconduct" and recommended he be disbarred.
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.
Ok. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition.
Really smart kids go to lots of schools
Quote from: Yankguy1 on November 14, 2019, 06:09:51 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 06:01:08 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.And it could be added (because I've just looked it up) that those torture memos were repudiated by the OLC after they were less than a few years old, and are no longer used as guidance. A 2009 report by the Office for Professional Responsibility re: his approval of waterboarding techniques accused Yoo of committing "intentional professional misconduct" and recommended he be disbarred.LOL Those “ torture memos” according to NEEDS are the only criteria permissible to judge John Yoo’s credibility as a National Security Expert.Do you actually read anybody else's posts? Or do you just do Cliffs Notes? Which for a self-styled educator would be kind of lazy.Well I read yours and Needs. I feel I can’t let naiveness go unchallenged. There is more to life than you two regurgitating democrat talking points.
Quote from: Yankguy1 on November 14, 2019, 06:09:51 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 06:01:08 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: NeedsAdjustments on November 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PMQuote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 05:32:54 PMOk. So you don’t like his opinions.But he is an expert on National Security Expert by any definition. He is neither an expert on national security experts, nor a national security expert, by any definition.John Yoo is a lawyer who worked in the Department of Justice under W. His seminal work in that role, the torture memo which refuted our obligations to the Geneva Conventions, was panned by actual national security experts for the very real damage it did to our national security interests.And it could be added (because I've just looked it up) that those torture memos were repudiated by the OLC after they were less than a few years old, and are no longer used as guidance. A 2009 report by the Office for Professional Responsibility re: his approval of waterboarding techniques accused Yoo of committing "intentional professional misconduct" and recommended he be disbarred.LOL Those “ torture memos” according to NEEDS are the only criteria permissible to judge John Yoo’s credibility as a National Security Expert.Do you actually read anybody else's posts? Or do you just do Cliffs Notes? Which for a self-styled educator would be kind of lazy.Well I read yours and Needs. I feel I can’t let naiveness go unchallenged.
http://mobile.twitter.com/RylandKY/status/1195059420843139072Bye bye, Bevin!Reality asserts it’s noted liberal bias.
Quote from: barton on November 14, 2019, 10:19:50 AMGiven the Trump/Sondland call was done on private cellphones (thus violating the presidential records act), I would guess there are two options for investigators....aGet a warrant to seize Trump's cellphone, which if it's like most cellphones, at least logs all incoming calls, showing the number from which it originated. Ask Russian intelligence if they would give us a copy of the recording they likely made in Kyiv.Since these options have zero probability of working, I guess it's worth asking if some US branch of the intelligence services might have somehow made a record of the call.But then, all Trump's paranoia and Deep State rant would be gloriously validated. Is there some legal loophole for US intelligence?Seize Trump's cellphone - heh - that's a good one.Hillary says "GET THE HAMMER!"
Given the Trump/Sondland call was done on private cellphones (thus violating the presidential records act), I would guess there are two options for investigators....aGet a warrant to seize Trump's cellphone, which if it's like most cellphones, at least logs all incoming calls, showing the number from which it originated. Ask Russian intelligence if they would give us a copy of the recording they likely made in Kyiv.Since these options have zero probability of working, I guess it's worth asking if some US branch of the intelligence services might have somehow made a record of the call.But then, all Trump's paranoia and Deep State rant would be gloriously validated. Is there some legal loophole for US intelligence?
The Party of Stupid (and of misunderstanding what religion is about, too) strikes again.https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion?fbclid=IwAR1-tm0-123OhR_e0zIo-eI59tT_x0aqZZWdimhhsQSLQwj9gBemYBdrcAYEvery member of the GOP in the Ohio House supported this bizarre and absurd bill. The Senate is controlled by the GOP. I fear for their children's future.
Quote from: josh on November 14, 2019, 10:04:59 PMThe Party of Stupid (and of misunderstanding what religion is about, too) strikes again.https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion?fbclid=IwAR1-tm0-123OhR_e0zIo-eI59tT_x0aqZZWdimhhsQSLQwj9gBemYBdrcAYEvery member of the GOP in the Ohio House supported this bizarre and absurd bill. The Senate is controlled by the GOP. I fear for their children's future.Why?
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on November 14, 2019, 10:32:13 PMQuote from: josh on November 14, 2019, 10:04:59 PMThe Party of Stupid (and of misunderstanding what religion is about, too) strikes again.https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion?fbclid=IwAR1-tm0-123OhR_e0zIo-eI59tT_x0aqZZWdimhhsQSLQwj9gBemYBdrcAYEvery member of the GOP in the Ohio House supported this bizarre and absurd bill. The Senate is controlled by the GOP. I fear for their children's future.Why?To permit giving bogus answers in order to allow people to give answers that are acceptable to the religious leaders - "religious freedom" is the excuse. It is modeled on a law from Mississippi in 2013 and that one is stupid, too.