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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24435 on: December 04, 2019, 03:13:14 PM »

As one whose Student Loan debt exceeds the Gross National Product of many nations, I would happily accept loan forgiveness.  At the same time, I don't think it's the world's greatest idea.

Itís the price tag that is scary, maybe, but the idea of fully subsidizing student loans up to a certain amount for poor and middle class people is not outlandish, is it?  Tax code currently has programs that hand out money to the working poor to encourage people to get jobs.  Why canít we hand out money to the educated poor to encourage people to get educated?

And as LarryBnDC said, the economic stimulus would be Yuuuge!  Way Yuuuuger than the 2 Trillion we just spent on corporate tax cuts.

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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #24436 on: December 04, 2019, 03:16:02 PM »

So I guess we all agree that the dem nomination process is not going well for Booker. 
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« Reply #24437 on: December 04, 2019, 03:19:00 PM »

I should add that Booker was basically eyeing the NJ senate seat from Day One as Mayor of Newark.  He was seen as a rising star if he could do well enough.  And so a good deal of his Newark leadership was with an eye on the upcoming state race.

Also, Wall St wealth is just a fact of politics in NJ. 
One advantage Kamala and Cory both had was they represent two states that are huge donor bases for the DEM party.  When Obama launched his re-election campaign he kicked it off in NJ, and not because it would be a contested state.   That could/should have helped them.
Kamala was also fresh off the Kavanaugh hearings where she was sharp and effective.  (Then again Hillary was fresh off the Benghazi marathon hearings in which she was sharp and effective ...).

Kid, since you're in NJ, let's hear your take on Booker. 
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« Reply #24438 on: December 04, 2019, 03:33:17 PM »

I should add that Booker was basically eyeing the NJ senate seat from Day One as Mayor of Newark.  He was seen as a rising star if he could do well enough.  And so a good deal of his Newark leadership was with an eye on the upcoming state race.

I'm unsure how much of the above is factual.  Booker was mayor of Newark for eight years.  The Senate seat he won became available when Lautenberg died.  Sure, Lautenberg was old but before Menendez's probable corruption surfaced, I don't know that Senate was the obvious path for him given those two were immovables.

Booker is/was ambitious, yes.  He never planned on his political career ending in Newark. Given his friendship with Christie, I bet Governor was the plan if there was one.
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« Reply #24439 on: December 04, 2019, 03:39:33 PM »

I should add that Booker was basically eyeing the NJ senate seat from Day One as Mayor of Newark.  He was seen as a rising star if he could do well enough.  And so a good deal of his Newark leadership was with an eye on the upcoming state race.

I'm unsure how much of the above is factual.  Booker was mayor of Newark for eight years.  The Senate seat he won became available when Lautenberg died.  Sure, Lautenberg was old but before Menendez's probable corruption surfaced, I don't know that Senate was the obvious path for him given those two were immovables.

Booker is/was ambitious, yes.  He never planned on his political career ending in Newark. Given his friendship with Christie, I bet Governor was the plan if there was one.

Edit: Ok Lautenberg was the oldest serving Senator and had announced he wouldn't run for reelection six months before he died.  So possible that Booker planned all along to succeed him. 

But still more probable that he saw a number of open paths, and took the one that opened to him at the right time. 
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« Reply #24440 on: December 04, 2019, 03:46:33 PM »

So a President can SIMPLY choose to not follow a law.  Got it.  Who told you that?

The LAW says end of fiscal year.
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« Reply #24441 on: December 04, 2019, 03:49:32 PM »

Kid, since you're in NJ, let's hear your take on Booker.


Born leader

Now he can just be derailed by foolhardy maneuvers or racism (I dont see this).

Likely a governor.  Or in the Cabinet.
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« Reply #24442 on: December 04, 2019, 03:57:55 PM »

Martha Roby is THE BOMB!
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« Reply #24443 on: December 04, 2019, 04:01:18 PM »

So a President can SIMPLY choose to not follow a law.  Got it.  Who told you that?

The LAW says end of fiscal year.
Jeez. You're all over the place. Go outside.
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« Reply #24444 on: December 04, 2019, 04:15:52 PM »

I mean, Booker wanted to get some visibility, but he's never been all that much of a contender - mayors rarely get far when they go direct to running for POTUS.  I doubt even Bloomberg, though his city is nearly nation-sized in people, and though he's got billions, will get that far.  I like that Cory said he was big on affordable housing and had some cool ideas for it, but pretty much anyone who's been a mayor rubs up against the affordable housing issue in a close and personal way, so that's just a given.  Mayors are probably the real frontline when it comes to battling wrestling with developers and NIMBY snobs who have no interest in real affordable housing.  When it comes to housing, that old phrase "all politics is local," really resonates.

Booker has been a US Senator for a bit...

Oil, did you mean Castro or Buttigieg when you said "go direct"?  I know some people lump first term senators in the "too green to run" category, and that's how I took your point.   (I know, technically, Booker is sorta in his 1.2 term, due to a brief first term from a special election....)   In any case, we've had first term Senators move on up to the WH, JFK and Obama I think are the only ones.   I think Obama had the shortest actual service in the Senate before becoming potus. 

In any case, I think one can make a case that the mayors, like Castro and Pete, do need to scuff up their shoes a bit more.   Bloomberg might be a little more seasoned, but is problematic as a Democrat for other reasons. 
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« Reply #24445 on: December 04, 2019, 04:18:06 PM »

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/11/25/headlines/coal_industry_knew_burning_fossil_fuels_causes_climate_change_as_early_as_1966?fbclid=IwAR2eDF-zHAtKv2UsB6QAKnzzNqXdBwj20bB0lMVzVdG-uC34yombrel3uS8

Kid and Bambu still don't accept man-made climate change. Ward still thinks it can be responded to by half-measures.


The globe heats, and cools, all by itself.
The glaciers started melting 15,000 years ago.
Once upon a time you could walk from India to Australia, then the seas rose and flooded the land bridge.

CO2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere.
97% of CO2 in the atmosphere occurs naturally.

I'm keeping my old [looks new] Corolla.
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« Reply #24446 on: December 04, 2019, 04:31:52 PM »

Thanks, Bart, and Larry and NA.  Yes, I had two ideas going about mayors and somehow attempted to cram them into one sentence.   Argh.  Yes, I know Cory is a US Senator, and did not mean to erase his tenure from the history books.   And yes, one can cite Obama and JFK as Senators who leaped successfully from first terms to the WH.   The other, Bart, was Warren Harding, whose presidency might (haha) support better my notion about "too green to run."  Really, the same could be said of JFK.   I confess to taking a rather military view in regard to high office, i.e. you have to spend several decades rising before they let you be a general or an admiral.   IMO Obama was a fluke - he just happened to be extraordinary and at the right time and place.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24447 on: December 04, 2019, 04:32:05 PM »

So a President can SIMPLY choose to not follow a law.  Got it.  Who told you that?

The LAW says end of fiscal year.
Jeez. You're all over the place. Go outside.

Just got back

WTF are you talking about?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24448 on: December 04, 2019, 04:33:01 PM »

Holy shit!  Matt Gaetz with the gorilla slam!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbVz_-ib0Jk
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« Reply #24449 on: December 04, 2019, 04:37:05 PM »

As one whose Student Loan debt exceeds the Gross National Product of many nations, I would happily accept loan forgiveness.  At the same time, I don't think it's the world's greatest idea.

Itís the price tag that is scary, maybe, but the idea of fully subsidizing student loans up to a certain amount for poor and middle class people is not outlandish, is it?  Tax code currently has programs that hand out money to the working poor to encourage people to get jobs.  Why canít we hand out money to the educated poor to encourage people to get educated?

And as LarryBnDC said, the economic stimulus would be Yuuuge!  Way Yuuuuger than the 2 Trillion we just spent on corporate tax cuts.

More sneakers and I phones for all
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